Really impress me

[calder12]

Ok I know I am beating a dead horse here but the whole helper crew thing just rings of BS to me. If you guys want something interesting how about a round of MC without them, run what ya brung and accept everything. I am sure the best will still shine, but it would be nice to see it done without being handed to them.

MC top crew = If you start a crew to lose to my crew for the whole session I'll save a spot for you :D

pure and utter BS, you want kudos as top crew then do it cause you are the best crew, not the best planners.

So there it is, all you MC guys want something to brag about? PROVE you are the best!

[A_n_i_M_a_L_]

Sounds like a great idea!! I would love to see an honest round of Crew Racing. No helper crews BS, just straight out heads up run what you brung. Mind you what's stopping people from being liars about it though???

[calder12]

would be pretty obvious through the crew battle history.

And to start it off I am gonna do it, challenge my crew next round and I will accept. If that means being off the top ten so be it, but at least I will know we gave it our best.

[o_O_Tread_O_o]

i like this idea

[23tommy23]

yeh but you could still lie yeh ok you can see it from crew battle history but what would you do if some one was getting free crew wins? get admin to disband the crew or sumit?

[calder12]

It's all about having the guts to be honest.

[o_O_Tread_O_o]

ask dynasty what they think about it

[23tommy23]

yeh...i thought about this a couple sessions ago but thought its never gonna happen but it would be good if it did give the other crews a chance make it how it should be

[R_Y_A_N]

Ok I know I am beating a dead horse here but the whole helper crew thing just rings of BS to me. If you guys want something interesting how about a round of MC without them, run what ya brung and accept everything. I am sure the best will still shine, but it would be nice to see it done without being handed to them.

MC top crew = If you start a crew to lose to my crew for the whole session I'll save a spot for you :D

pure and utter BS, you want kudos as top crew then do it cause you are the best crew, not the best planners.

So there it is, all you MC guys want something to brag about? PROVE you are the best!

You where not complaining about all of the crew wins that I gave you, so why start now?

[calder12]

ask dynasty what they think about it

If they are as good as everyone says they'll agree. If they don't then I guess they aren't huh?

Oh and if it seems like I am being a touch cocky? oh well, I am a firm believer in putting your money where your mouth is, not kissing up and begging for crap. Ask anyone from TS whether my team EVER asked for help.

[R_Y_A_N]

Difference is, this aint TS, things are done differently.

Live with it

[calder12]

Not complaining at all about crew wins DA and I appreciate them. My point is no game is supposed to be about planning a win. It is supposed to be about being the best. If you're the best you will win anyways.

and the big difference between your crew and what I am describing here is you accepted races from EVERYONE.

Don't get me wrong here guys I am not trying to change MC into TS, I like MC for what it is and I don't wanna play two identical games. But in TS everyone has a chance to win if they try hard enough. MC isn't like that you win here if you have enough friends.

All I am doing is calling out the best, if you are the best, PROVE it. Simple as that, not asking for the game to change, just for people to have the guts to play it honestly.

[R_Y_A_N]

Well unfortunately it isn't like that here in the MC community, if Dynasty want to win the next 50 sessions in a row, they can and will, it may cost them a little but they will do it.

The only way to eliminate the whole organised crew win, is that for crew wins to take place, crew cars must be within a certain PR or speed or lvl of the car they are racing.

Then just maybe would it reduce the crew win problem.

[A_n_i_M_a_L_]

ask dynasty what they think about it

If they are as good as everyone says they'll agree. If they don't then I guess they aren't huh?

Oh and if it seems like I am being a touch cocky? oh well, I am a firm believer in putting your money where your mouth is, not kissing up and begging for crap. Ask anyone from TS whether my team EVER asked for help.

I agree totally. I still feel your idea is a great one, and for those who do not, are not willing to show their skill at this game. Come on all you big winning crews, step up to the plate and play this game like it should be. Gathering free wins from helper crew is not real racing! You go to your local drag strip and see how many people are letting the other guy win, or go to your local street race and look for this. Ain't gonna happin!! Come on Dynasty and all you other top crews, lets see this round played with some honor!!! :roll:

[GODthurisnoother]

hey sha
look at what removing the money races did
thats all i got to say :twisted:

[R_Y_A_N]

hey sha
look at what removing the money races did
thats all i got to say :twisted:

Its hey Devils Advocate

or

Hey D.A

or

Hey Devil

NOT SHA

And I dont get what you mean

[GODthurisnoother]

yes sha
before they took out the racing for money the top spot was always planed
now look at last session there was no clear winner till they posted it on the winners page

maybe they should change the way crew race?

[R_Y_A_N]

yes sha


Got ya now, and FFS ITS DEVILS ADVOCATE

STOP CALLING ME SHA

[GODthurisnoother]

but its funny seeing how stupid you go about it lol
but back on topic now lol

[rom3o™]

Crap idea as ive said many times now in many threads

top CREW is determined on how well and hard a crew races for cms and is able to keep and work them, helpers raise sponsorship and allow more money to be made when werking not a great deal.

as for the ratio, which ur refering to, your saying that if u race other crews its about tuning yoru crew car to its best ability thus making the ratio of higher importance. but then tis all about the leaders tuning skill.

and makes the crews racing efforts worthless sadly this game isnt about fairness ive learnt that since ive started.

so no one gives a flying Fuk about petty ideas on making this game more fair for noobs. those who dominate wil take icons and those who take them deserve them

end of discuSSION like S S I O N....try but yall get nothing...

-rom3o

[calder12]

Did I say anything about making it fair for noobs? roflmao, not trying to level the playing field here between vets and noobs and if helper crews aren't that important then what is the big deal running one session without em? sounds to me more like fear of being outed here than anything concrete on why it shouldn't be changed.

"it has always been like that" is an excuse, not a reason.

and if they deserve the icons, why do they need helpers?

[rom3o™]

as i mentioned also in many other threads

helpers alow players who r good but maybe less trusted to earn there way intoa top crew more comfotably as well as the fact other crews wil have helpers.

its allows for more money to be made more werking as to look nicer on top 10.

[A_n_i_M_a_L_]

LOL!! Open minds are what this idea is about.. I dont' agree with this idea so I can get top crew. LOL!!!! This is about the same crew winning TOP crew over and over again. Who want to bother if no one else has a chance?? Please keep an open mind with this topic romeo, and others for the matter. Fair? what is that?? If people know they don't have a chance in hell, they will begin not to bother.

[calder12]

it artificially inflates the teams br. end of discussion on helpers.

if you want to make a top team you should be a good player that is how you get into top teams or at least how you should.

[rom3o™]

i can make a crew ne session dynasty runs and wihtout trying or ne helpers get 2nd place. its a known fact.

it helps raise teams br or u can put it as u did regardless it open opportunitys for others to earn a spot ina top crew,.

it however does not DETERMIN the top crew or make fuk all diference between the battle of 1st n 2nd place, its base dupon the NUMBER OF CMS and how well the crew races to raise there level and work and keep cms.

other crew dont have a chance because they r shi1t its that simple.

if u get people who are willing to outrace them for cms then they wil win.

[calder12]

that is all I am asking. Just race, prove dynasty is the best. Everyone seems to get the idea that I don't think they are.

I never said that!

What I said is, prove you are the best, without help. What is being top crew with helpers? I'm sorry I'm not buying it. As Chris said all of a sudden top nw got real interesting when they took out the cash races. I think top crew would as well.

I never asked for help, I never said dynasty were not great players. Yes I am a noob, and probably making a few enemies carrying this on. But if helpers are not that important then do without them for one session.


and as to helping bring in people you trust slightly less? why in gods name would you bring in anyone you didn't trust fully into a top team?

It is a way of BUYING your way into a top team.

When all is said and done I am sure everyone will ignore this much the way they ignored Black Rains calling out teams to race him, but it is sad.

"we would own you without helpers that is fact, but ummmm we aren't gonna do it because we need to make a statement on the top team page and uhhhh we need to figure out who to give an icon to next session and the only way we can trust people is by having them help us crush everyone the session before......"

sad :(


oooh wait :D I can get 60 of my TS buddies to make helper crews for me!!!!!

nvm I like helpers now

[MurZZo]

TS guys would only be too willing to help, just seems there is no challenge if thats the way to go.

[THE_ONE]

Now all you MC guys know that these TS guys know how to race hell i have played both and have icons in both, both games are fun but that is why i left MC and retired for good i am not a big fan of the way the dynasty was lead this session because some guys that helped them early got crapped on for helper leaders to take there spot in the end and there was some bad leading going on, now i know sleep came into a messed up situation BUT no excuse for all the booting and spot giving away that went on, and i wont play until it is done, a helper crew leader should be first in line NEXT session to either get a spot or leader the crew, not get a spot that round for an icon, you are just screwing a guy out of a spot like wraith or lights out, go f u c k e d this session that is another reason i left dynasty but i have put my 2 cents in so go ahead and flame me if you want

[Black_rain13]

Perhaps the game should be set so that if you have a car, you have the cash... then the game automatically accepts the challenges if someone issues one to your crew...

Then there is no crap about it... everyone can race anyone they want and they can race them again and again... but if you get called out by a better car, then you lose the race, end of story...

None of this "Selective Racing" shit!

[calder12]

Why doesn't it surprise me that you don't like the way it is either? lol

oh well play it as it is I guess, but seems like a kinda pathetic way to win. and don't anyone give me any BS about it not being a way to win. Look at the facts top team is based on crew br and winning %

winning against helper crews ups sponsorship hence you make more money when you work. hmmm crew br goes up faster.

Winning against helper crews ummmmm yeah gee that helps winning % don't it?

Damn I am missing something here, how do helper crews have nothing to do with whether or not the top team is decided beforehand again?

[R_Y_A_N]

+1

Calder, you cant change MC so just leave it

[LuDe]

i doubt there will ever be a season without a helper crew...lol...the winning crew will always find a way around it...

[calder12]

yeah I just thought maybe, just maybe if someone pointed out how kinda sad it was that they would have the nuts to prove they could do it without em. oh well if that is how the game is played so be it ;)

[o_O_Tread_O_o]

i will have the crew im in not use helpers if dynasty and giddays crews dont use them