Ok this is the stas on Auto Play right now

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Users online: 316 Blue = Auto Play = 293

Users online thats NOT on AP = 23

This sucks, Please Ray consider the death of AP, if you wanted the user count to go up, you got it, but not for good "Play".

Its like this everyday, and personally it sucks, theres NO reason to be on to race, because Noone is on. All those counts of people
"online" aren't. just a waste of space.

These "Improvements" have done nothing, noone is working hard for races anymore, only within the first 4 days, to get CM's, then racing is out.

If AP still remains, make HI unlimited, NONE of this online 4x offline 2x stuff.

It is very hard for "noobs" to learn and level, if noone is actually on to race. ALL they know is to put ap on because that way they are guaranteed ONE race, and take ONLY losses.

Theres so much more to say about it, but why waste my time... Anything i have ever said, never gets any kind of response or thought put into it.

[Tokkiez]

i agree with this though

as a hier user online is low so sigh

death to ap!

[WiReD_________]

I agree, taking it out wont do any more bad than what the game has already come to..The game has hit rock bottom, there is no where else to go but up..So take AP out, and lets get the game back to how it use to be..

[slacker-god]

I like it. There's alot of strategy added to the way i play...i can see why the HI'ers are bummed but I like it nonetheless.

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

its not just for HI'ers, racing is the main point of this game.

noone does it, ap does, noone levels, ap does, all we do is push cruise, work.

theres no hussle to find people to race, IDE isnt even a deserved gain anymore, UNLESS you were actually online alot...

having those medals look pretty i agree, but for those who have gotten them before AP. it was FUN, and Challenging. now if you gots money, its yours.


AND EVERYONE IS FORGETTING OUR NEW DAMN PLAYERS...

how are the supposed to learn the game if NOONE IS ON?

who are they gonna race? the only peeps they could race to even gain any kind of exp, are the top NW, which is NEVER ON.

so what do they do? they add them to ap. and take LOSSES.

now we all know that its almost impossible to get 100% happiness if youre below.75 W/L

so they wont learn to WORK properly. which makes them noob forever.

[strEetRAcer]

If you're below .75 ratio.. you have no idea how to use AP.. even if you set all the top guys on your AP at the beginning of the game to get exp, for a week, you might take 200 losses.. if that.. everyone else has them on AP too!

So you get your exp.. maybe to level 18 or 20 if you're lucky.. then take them off your AP cause they're no longer giving you that much exp anymore and add every low net person you see racing on AP and start gaining wins.. a week later you're over 1k wins.. might be at .80% ratio, but it will continue to go up in a quick hurry... and that's just for noobs, I constantly change my AP throughout the session, mainly at the beginning. AP isn't ruining the game, Top racers who only race their friends or people they pick before the game starts ruin the game for noobs. AP is helping

[PIMP_4_LIFE]

im 50/50 with it

when i come back i thought wow less time to play and level but now im looking at my win/lose and it got shot

iv got noobs on it just to fix my win/lose on the other hand crew models come in like nothing


its got its ups and down but i would rather it gone imo play like the old times where people added there level to there bumper and you found yourself a good race partner and chatted to them when online and shit, easier to start a new crew wthout a good name aswell

[joedabooger]

give it the boot

make top crew more who races more NOT who has the highest networth

[SyNt3K]

yes speaking from a no0b's perspective, i played this game about 5 sessions b4 ap... then came back and found ap... same deal though, no one online... i rememebr my second round... i worked hard and raced hard, had a .98 ratio something like 2100/ 18 or something and ranked 5th over all... got the right advise from the right ppl straight away... try and do that now?...:evil: hell no, ppl adding me to ap (and not having the fuking decent courtesy to take you off when you ask!!) and no one online to race for better exp... is how do you say.... :evil: GHEY!!

But thats just what i think.... :wink: :evil:

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

If you're below .75 ratio.. you have no idea how to use AP.. even if you set all the top guys on your AP at the beginning of the game to get exp, for a week, you might take 200 losses.. if that.. everyone else has them on AP too!

So you get your exp.. maybe to level 18 or 20 if you're lucky.. then take them off your AP cause they're no longer giving you that much exp anymore and add every low net person you see racing on AP and start gaining wins.. a week later you're over 1k wins.. might be at .80% ratio, but it will continue to go up in a quick hurry... and that's just for noobs, I constantly change my AP throughout the session, mainly at the beginning. AP isn't ruining the game, Top racers who only race their friends or people they pick before the game starts ruin the game for noobs. AP is helping

The only AP is doing is giving a big fat bonus to lazy people.

And i dont believe you just said that the top players are ruining the game.. if there was NO TOP RACERS... then where would all the exp come from?

[strEetRAcer]

AP isn't ruining the game, Top racers who only race their friends or people they pick before the game starts ruin the game for noobs.

if there was NO TOP RACERS... then where would all the exp come from?

Exactly my point Midori...

[rom3o™]

ap sucks

but we r trying to accommodate the needs of everyone.

yes mc has hit rock bottom nate is right.

what midori says is also right.

but its not so easy to jsut please everyone, and you forget, Mc isnt jsut a game its a business, and as a Business manager you want to maximise profit, so amongts all the whinging and complaining.

if the revenue is higher now days, then why would they want to change it? if u dont like it dont play its simple.

[PANDAhumpnMONKEY]

ty jeremy, you said it all :?


I hate AP just as much as the next joe schmoe :?


I'd like to see the death of AP as well..

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

ap sucks

but we r trying to accommodate the needs of everyone.

yes mc has hit rock bottom nate is right.

what midori says is also right.

but its not so easy to jsut please everyone, and you forget, Mc isnt jsut a game its a business, and as a Business manager you want to maximise profit, so amongts all the whinging and complaining.

if the revenue is higher now days, then why would they want to change it? if u dont like it dont play its simple.

hmmm youre right, i dont play, i wont have to complain... sounds good to me.

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

AP isn't ruining the game, Top racers who only race their friends or people they pick before the game starts ruin the game for noobs.

if there was NO TOP RACERS... then where would all the exp come from?

Exactly my point Midori...

i get your point, but you dont get mine..

[WiReD_________]

ap sucks

but we r trying to accommodate the needs of everyone.

yes mc has hit rock bottom nate is right.

what midori says is also right.

but its not so easy to jsut please everyone, and you forget, Mc isnt jsut a game its a business, and as a Business manager you want to maximise profit, so amongts all the whinging and complaining.

if the revenue is higher now days, then why would they want to change it? if u dont like it dont play its simple.

your right there rom3o, haha, i just learned about revenue crap in freshman civics lmfao..

[modogg85]

personally I think AP is a good idea. You have to be online to get good EXP while trying to level up, but with AP you can also make sure your w/l ratio is decent and I never have to cruise for models or anything like that. It also gives some of the older players that have lifes and are not on the PC 24/7 a time to compete. Still dont see that type of person winning, but makes it interesting

[NoToRiOuS_ThUgS]

yea i agree...but i also think it should be for members only

[UNiQuE]

yea i agree...but i also think it should be for members only
yea, i agree on that

[Tokkiez]

i dont agree with that. Why so members have more advantage? Were trying to give everyone equal rights to mc. Why should members be the only ones who have ap. Noobs deserve it too. Gets the a little taste of mc's glory :P

[rakimdream]

hmm so honestly i still have no clue waht the hell AP is... but then again i've been playing again for 11 days so i guess its not a big suprise... i still hate racing always have and always will i see no gain in it at all... i've always bullied my way into a top crew by HI'ing everyone in the crew till they can't take it anymore and decide to sacrifice someone to make a spot for me so they won't get hit anymore lol...

racing dosn't effect my nw or my HI's or anything actually... i realize that they are promoting racing more with all the prizes for IDE ect... but back when i played reguarly that was just a medal and you had to dedicate your whole round to racing non stop sitting online for hours on end... so i suppose i still have that mentality when i see this AP now...

So really i could do without it it just seems to cuase more lag and more problems with the server in my mind with all the extras that have to be used.

but hell what do i know i'm just here to HI and make everyone's life a living hell

[Lil-Luceifer]

I do like AP but I do get annoyed that no one comes online.

I think more XP should be given for Online and less CMs for AP. To make people race online MORE!

And Deffinately Ray Put Unlimited NW bars on!.

[slacker-god]

As was pointed out, online racing gets more exp so there's still incentive to be online.

Speaking as a relative noob, i had NO chance before AP came on and now i'm in 6th and was in 2nd for a while...granted that may be much from luck but i attribute my sudden success to the help of AP.

As was also pointed out, the ratio is easier to maintain...so even if you're a noob, if you're not a total idiot there are many ways you can have AP work in your favor instead of against you.

I haven't had problems finding top guys to talk to...especially in the beginning when everyone was racing and way ahead.

Ap is new, and so is an easy scapegoat, i think there are many more positives it brings to the game then negatives.

Oh and who said it should only be for members???? what a terrible idea...wonderwomen already addressed it.

[PIMP_4_LIFE]

would def help, but is it not at all possible to add an option in the profile to display level publicly or something along the lines as if racing online is the best way to level knowing whos what levels helps a lot better then the threads on this forum

[Wraith]

AP races should gain 0 CMS and very minimal exp.
Just my 2 cents

[hydromike]

As was pointed out, online racing gets more exp so there's still incentive to be online.

Speaking as a relative noob, i had NO chance before AP came on and now i'm in 6th and was in 2nd for a while...granted that may be much from luck but i attribute my sudden success to the help of AP.

As was also pointed out, the ratio is easier to maintain...so even if you're a noob, if you're not a total idiot there are many ways you can have AP work in your favor instead of against you.

I haven't had problems finding top guys to talk to...especially in the beginning when everyone was racing and way ahead.

Ap is new, and so is an easy scapegoat, i think there are many more positives it brings to the game then negatives.

Oh and who said it should only be for members???? what a terrible idea...wonderwomen already addressed it.


I'm on the same page with what slacker-god said, alot seem to hate it, but without it I wouldn't be able to do much. I wish I could stay online like I used to, but 4 out of 7 days of the week I work 12 hours a day, not including the 2 hour round trip drive I have and sometimes I work a 12 hour shift 7 days a week so it's hard for me to do much without AP. When I wake up in the morning I'll work my credits and when I get home I'll stay online as much as I can before I have to go to sleep. It hurt when the EXP was taken away from AP last time so I couldn't imagine losing any more. Just my 2 cents.

Mike

[strEetRAcer]

Is everyone forgetting about the bots being used to log people online and log them off to gain more exp already?! Ummm If anything it will only further the gap between the bot users and the AP users. You don't honestly think the top racers are actually signing on and off every 4 minutes do you?

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Is everyone forgetting about the bots being used to log people online and log them off to gain more exp already?! Ummm If anything it will only further the gap between the bot users and the AP users. You don't honestly think the top racers are actually signing on and off every 4 minutes do you?

maybe not this round, but i know some who did that last round, NO BOTS/MACROS, but they signed in and out.

[WiReD_________]

So if I reduced exp gained even more with AP, reduced DRASTICALLY how many CMS you get on AP, took away AP levelling for you but still made it race and full and etc it would be fine?

I will work on reducing the effect of AP on the game but it wont be removed. I will make it that if you want anything of importance for winning purposes that you have to race and HI online. I do get that AP makes the game tedious but it is temporary untill our plans have been met.

Thanks

So, if you took away the exp drastically, fixed how many cms you got, and took away leveling, what is really the point of AP?

You know what I am sayin?

[NoToRiOuS_ThUgS]

i like the game how it is.......yea theres some things to work out but over all i like this session alot lol......yea i agrees we barley get any xp from ap but i do all my lvlin when im online.....i get my cm'z both way all so im set lol......

[johncory25]

I will agree with modogg on this one if it wasnt for ap I wouldnt be playing no more I dont really have to time to be on to play with big boys. I have to say ap keeps me in the game with races but when I lvl up I get online to race and keep my ratio looking nice with ap.

[PIMP_4_LIFE]

tbh if you dont have time to play dont play simple as you have an option atm but without it if you wanted to play you would no matter how little time you play

[TheJMan]

All summed up ... Death to AP ... bring back the older days ... where you had to be online and could chat to everyone you know racing ... working hard for what your earn ... not just who can spnd the most for highest NW and CBR etc ...

[PirateRyRy 17]

hmm so honestly i still have no clue waht the hell AP is... but then again i've been playing again for 11 days so i guess its not a big suprise... i still hate racing always have and always will i see no gain in it at all... i've always bullied my way into a top crew by HI'ing everyone in the crew till they can't take it anymore and decide to sacrifice someone to make a spot for me so they won't get hit anymore lol...

racing dosn't effect my nw or my HI's or anything actually... i realize that they are promoting racing more with all the prizes for IDE ect... but back when i played reguarly that was just a medal and you had to dedicate your whole round to racing non stop sitting online for hours on end... so i suppose i still have that mentality when i see this AP now...

So really i could do without it it just seems to cuase more lag and more problems with the server in my mind with all the extras that have to be used.

but hell what do i know i'm just here to HI and make everyone's life a living hell

Well said Matt..

[slacker-god]

All summed up ... Death to AP ... bring back the older days ... where you had to be online and could chat to everyone you know racing ... working hard for what your earn ... not just who can spnd the most for highest NW and CBR etc ...

I don't spend, i am online, i chat with newbs and vets alike, i work hard. Maybe we could all just get used to it and quit challenging every new thing that comes our way hmmm?

[modogg85]

i THINK THAT AP should stay just how it is. I mean it took me over 200 wins and I didnt even have 50% of level one last session, so i was forced to get online races. Now that the session is winding down less people log into the game in the first place and everybody knows that one

[Murph22]

I think it is funny how everyone says they want more and more of a MC community and everything but you NEVER see the top guys on like halfway through the round cuz they are afriad to be HIed.... like they come on to work and thats all... thats such a great MC "community"

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

I think it is funny how everyone says they want more and more of a MC community and everything but you NEVER see the top guys on like halfway through the round cuz they are afriad to be HIed.... like they come on to work and thats all... thats such a great MC "community"

you dont see anyone on becuase theres noone to race... top people like to race low people, and visa versa, its a fact, if neither is on then noone is on. dont just blame the top guys, im NOT afraid to get HI'd, i could care less, anyone who HI's me get this in their mail ":)" thats it. If i get HI'd that just opens up new oppourtunities.

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Oh and another thing, reading through all these posts, almost all of you are thinking about your OWN benefits of AP, not the MC community... just something to think about....

[strEetRAcer]

Not like anyone doesn't know my opinion about it.. But since Rom3o begged and cried like a 5 year old girl, and created a good chance for AP to be on the chopping block.. Just watch for macros to come back, and the "MC Community" go fuck it, how do we stop it again? Back to square fuckin one! Thank you


.. guys it's not like i'm not online all the time.. I don't have a macro, I accepted all my 401 races online by clicking the damn mouse like a real racer. I don't have a problem with the changes, I have the ability to be online a lot and still be a decent player.. However, I am thinking about the rest of MC who doesn't! Why not start a time keeper to see who's online the most.. and sign off people who are online more than 8 minutes with no action.. Since that's what you're tying to make the game about.. You're still going to have to stop macros from being used. I don't care what happens, I don't spend on this game anymore cause it's not worth it, plain and simple.

[PIMP_4_LIFE]

back when i was playing i didnt give 2 shits about macros and i stil dont so imo this helps the legits and the macro users can do what they want remember its number 1 net tht wins not level

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Not like anyone doesn't know my opinion about it.. But since Rom3o begged and cried like a 5 year old girl, and created a good chance for AP to be on the chopping block.. Just watch for macros to come back, and the "MC Community" go F*** it, how do we stop it again? Back to square f**** one! Thank you


.. guys it's not like i'm not online all the time.. I don't have a macro, I accepted all my 401 races online by clicking the damn mouse like a real racer. I don't have a problem with the changes, I have the ability to be online a lot and still be a decent player.. However, I am thinking about the rest of MC who doesn't! Why not start a time keeper to see who's online the most.. and sign off people who are online more than 8 minutes with no action.. Since that's what you're tying to make the game about.. You're still going to have to stop macros from being used. I don't care what happens, I don't spend on this game anymore cause it's not worth it, plain and simple.

so your saying that we should be logged off every 8 minutes? if macros run they have "action" every 4 minutes, and that wuoud kill your point.

And if im "racing" why would i do anything else but wait till the races go through? not like theres anything else to do... so the "real" racers just wait.... Inactive till the next race period.

[strEetRAcer]

It was a sarcastic joke..

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

sarcastic jokes just stir up drama, and has no use for this thread.

[strEetRAcer]

And improper grammar is hard to read.. what's your point?! I already made mine

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

You dont give up do you? hard to read? or understand? and if you cant understand or read what i just posted then you should stop coming on here cause that was as simple as it gets.... i could have done this:

1. Your sarcastic comments has been causing drama in the MC community.

2. I don't like you very much now, and expect more of my improper grammar.

So... do you get my point?

[TheJMan]

settle boys ..... :shock: :twisted: