NEXT SESSION CHANGES

[rom3o™]

this is unofficial but because i love midori and he cooked a mean bbq for my bday, some changes may be implemented starting next round.

AP wil NOT get your CM's

CM's are gained via ONLINE RACING

There may posibly be another way to gain CM's Ontop

I have spoken to raymond about crew sizes, either 4 man crews to generate max competition. or larger crews.

i mentioned that 6-8 man crews just wont work, and 10 + would be more appropriate. as the only reason he droped crew sizes was to generate compeition, but as we all see the top 2 teams always go for it.

AP wil give you FUKALL exp, its mainly there for account maintenance, keeping your win/loss up, im's happy and generally assisting in a tiny bit of xp.

a few other changes maybe, but yer this is for every one complaining about AP, enjoy.


if none of this follows through dont hate th player hate the game? =P

[Tokkiez]

sounds good.

awesome possum

[TheAirMan]

Aww man.. ap not gettin u alot of EXP ? :cry:

[Vendetta]

Good compromise made with exp you have my approval

[strEetRAcer]

And the compromise to people who like AP? win/loss ratio.. hmmm.. SHAFT! Hear that? That's all the bots/macros getting fired up again.. but hey, we'll deal with whatever happens

[TheAirMan]

AP should still get u the same amout of Exp.. it just need 2 b tweaked.. a lil.. plz dont change my exp :cry:

[strEetRAcer]

AP became insignificant after level 35 anyways.. but NO cms, guess that means a lot less cms.. and i bet we'll find the top crew on and offline every 4 minutes every hour of the day and night... i'm good with whatever happens though, just not sure a whole lot of thought is being given to the matter

[rom3o™]

streetracer please mate please.

dont come and talk about not enough though going into it, 5 years of thought is going into it and thats why this game is ever changing trying to suit the needs of many.

your voice is not heard for the simple reason no one wants to hear it, this is about the majority of players request, sorted out and implemented for the benefit of getting new players.

making the game a racing game like it always was without AP, people who like ap? to bad, theres less people like it then those who dont like it.

and its not like is being removed u just can get CM's for it and exp is lower, just means get online and race more if u want ot keep up.

what benefit do u bring to the game streetracer? unless your spending, o ur getting frends to, unless your helping countless noobs to play who in tunr wil then spend money.

ur obsolete.

yes it means alot less cms, number of CM's doesnt matter when ap gets em for u, the idea of cms, is earning them from online racing. + there wil be an alternate mean of getting cms.

this is all t generate mroe top crew compeition and give non spenders a chance like the old days.

zzzzzz

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

love it, and yes im looking at new players more than just myself.

and its not fair that the people who do actually come on to race is being kept up with people who just go high in NW and let ap do the dirty work.

but what do i know.. im still a noob... icons or not, im still learning.

[PANDAhumpnMONKEY]

FINALLY AP WILL NOT GET CMS

I MITE BE ABLE TO FINALLY RUN MY 1-MAN CREW AND OWN ALL U RAWRZ0RZ PPL!! HARRRRRRRRR


1-man crews ftw? :D

[numba1stuna76]

if none of this follows through dont hate th player hate the game? =P

what if we already hate the game... :(

(knee-slapper) :lol:

on a more serious note, i like the proposed changes. if it will make it so that there are actually people online playing, like the way that it used to be, i like.

[AI2SeNaL]

i dnt have the time to race no more.. i work close to 14hours mon-fri , and i would love to see AP go ..and im glad/hope it gains no CMs/EXP at all .. im a racer and did it the hard way.. watching all these guys get away with leaving there account on AP all day to do all there work ..does **** me off..but meh ...

[projectjdm]

I love people acting official when they have no power what so ever.

[strEetRAcer]

Romeo seriously.. if this wasn't the internet I'd have laid you out many moons ago and you'd still be seeing stars.. I don't really care what changes the game makes, adaptivity is just another part of the game to me. BUT In My Humble Opinion.. AP was introduced to stop players from using the bots/macros they were using in the game. Basically evened the playing field by giving everyone one. No you're putting limitations on it, making them 'obsolete' *this is where you get lights out* ... Basically I don't really give a shit, all I'm saying is that you're getting away from why it was initially brought into the game.. Stopping bots/macros is the better way to go

[NoToRiOuS_ThUgS]

so the crew will be 10 people this round commming up? if so i like the idea...im just not so keen on no cm'z for ap why dont you just limit the numbers of cm;z you can get from ap.......i think that would make alot more sense then not having any cm'z from ap......but other wise the new changes i like em...this session is gonna be a blast lol

[TheAirMan]

Rom3o - your voice is not heard for the simple reason no one wants to hear it.

:lol: that was mean..

[Amped8000]

romeo uses a macro because hes a pussy. just so everyone knows

[johncory25]

I like the idea of ap is going to do a lot less damage now but someone is going to find a marco to use on the game and it will go back to the days. the competition is always fun but it sucks that I am going to be leaving soon I want to do some crazy racing that is alright. Thanks for the updates romeo and bigger crews would be nicer and give other crews that chance for more fun.

[johncory25]

with what streetracer is saying ray just needs to watch and see how long people stay on the computer cause if they are not on ap and are on for like 16+ hours than a marco might be in use or they have no life. the changes are going to be awesome and good luck with the new change everyone. I will play some in Iraq.

[strEetRAcer]

Thank you Amped.. Rom3o knows exactly what I say is true which is why he's being a little bitch about it.. Talking down to me isn't going to help your case Rom3o, all I'm doing is providing a very realistic point of view to this matter. AP was introduced to LEVEL the playing field with macros, and now you're taking away every advantage about it.

[AI2SeNaL]

Romeo seriously.. if this wasn't the internet I'd have laid you out many moons ago and you'd still be seeing stars..


HAHAHAHA i bet ya he is sooooooo scared

[kutangpro]

Just out of curiosity if AP goes the way you forsee it can yall make it to where we can race all people again? I like AP, but I understand it's downside. I liked being able to race everybody online in the past. Often times it is impossible to race online because no one near your networth is logged in.

I have been playing for years, sadly enough so please do not spam me since this is my first post. (I cannot remember my former forum name nor what email I used).

[PANDAhumpnMONKEY]

Romeo seriously.. if this wasn't the internet I'd have laid you out many moons ago and you'd still be seeing stars.. I don't really care what changes the game makes, adaptivity is just another part of the game to me. BUT In My Humble Opinion.. AP was introduced to stop players from using the bots/macros they were using in the game. Basically evened the playing field by giving everyone one. No you're putting limitations on it, making them 'obsolete' *this is where you get lights out* ... Basically I don't really give a shit, all I'm saying is that you're getting away from why it was initially brought into the game.. Stopping bots/macros is the better way to go

another post like this and i'll ban you permanently


romeo uses a macro because hes a pussy. just so everyone knows
bring it up with Raymond, one more word about it and i'll ban you permanently as well






<3 john

[Amped8000]

im pretty sure that would be amusing your mod powers to ban someone for stating that another players uses a macro which is not allowed in the game

[Amped8000]

*abuse

and yeah so anyways, go red sox

[strEetRAcer]

And nothing about Rom3o's post.. that's crap buddy, and you know it.. His was FAR more obscene than mine

I call abuse as well.. This is us taking it up with Raymond.. these are his forums are they not?

[Amped8000]

obviously rom30 doesnt get the warning, you kiss ass you can do what you want which is why he gets away with his macro

[mecca_boy]

And the compromise to people who like AP? win/loss ratio.. hmmm.. SHAFT! Hear that? That's all the bots/macros getting fired up again.. but hey, we'll deal with whatever happens


those will take effect

[PANDAhumpnMONKEY]

And nothing about Rom3o's post.. that's crap buddy, and you know it.. His was FAR more obscene than mine

I call abuse as well.. This is us taking it up with Raymond.. these are his forums are they not?

He rarely reads them ;)

Drop the subject and get back on topic

[Tokkiez]

seriously you guys have nerves to open your mouth and talk shit.

Personally the new changes are great.

The situation about ap and the people complaining about it. Ap is there to fix your ratio and why should lazy people or people who dont have time get the full benifit ap and run close as hard as the people online.

Thats not fair. Thats why ap is nerfed and its suppose to encourage players to be online more.

As far as ap races dont get cm's good. It will also encourage people to race more online and for the people that complained about it. Learn the fucking game honestly and stfu. Stop crying

This change benifits the whole community itself.

You guys only cry because you suck. Learn to play

And i agree with panda. Anymore posts like that from you streetracer i will personally ban you.

[rom3o™]

i think u need to re read over.

95% of mc agrees with the changes and they are being mad eby request.

u are part of the 5% who disagrees.

what i said to u was said politley but straight forward, you are the one coming on here attacking me.

MACRO MACRO

ZOMG ZO<MG ZOMG MACRO!!!!

i dont macro, if i did macro get some proof and present it, until that point
stfu GTFO or yes u will get banned and it wont be abusing authority.


and yes Tana im fuking scared of him, internet gangsters, this guy is a fuking interior designer for god sakem, hes a flaming homosexual trying to say hes going to lay me out......

zzzz

BACK ON TOPIC



see midori, the things i do for u, now i get abused for implementing ur ideas =P

[Amped8000]

if you werent on a macro why would you have accepted a pink slip race from vendetta when he was clearly a higher level then you, and then for over an hour afterwards be stuck in the racing status while it showed you were online?

obviously you werent online, and for those who dont know with the macro it just accepts races no matter what, thats why he accepted vendettas race. i was at vendettas house when he said " cool rom3os using his macro, should i be a dick and pink him so he doesnt have a car while hes trying to use it, but i dont want to piss off KK. Then he did it anyways and you were on for another hour. a normal person would of bought a new car or at least logged off so they werent online racing.


Yes you used a macro.



anyways the ap changes are good, i only use it for my ratio anyways

[strEetRAcer]

LoL.. You guys are pure entertainment.. nice PM Panda, a real gentleman lol grow up..


I'm gonna let this go, since I've obviously hit a nerve with a group of friends.. I've said my piece.. lets just see what happens shall we..

Rom3o_ I didn't attack you man.. why don't you go re-read.. pretty sure YOU addressed ME.. I also never accused you personally

[PANDAhumpnMONKEY]

tell me to grow up again :)

[Amped8000]

let me guess, youll ban him? thats not abusing powers...

[rom3o™]

Amped, was i on a macro i sure was, i macro'd hard for 1 day, raymond spoke to me, and then i stoped. SO GET OVER IT.

street check my post u say i was abusing u? its been read over by ray and he cant seem to find the abuse... maybe ur feminin interior designing personalty was tarnished by a few points i proved im ever so sorry.

then u came at me with the lay me out internet gangster talk, so shhh no one wants to hear it.

yes i adressed you because you are one of the non cared about people in mc, complaining about the changes benefiting the rest of the community.

if u want to complain about changes do it in indeas and suggestions where no one will read.

[Vendetta]

He did have the macro for a short time but he has stopped using it as I have seen and he has been racing like crazy online to get that lvl up to hopefully catcg Turkstar and I but we will see

[AI2SeNaL]

I'm gonna let this go, since I've obviously hit a nerve with a group of friends.. I've said my piece.. lets just see what happens shall we..



not true, i would bag on anyone who i thought was in the wrong.... just the other day i was backing up amped8000..and i dont even know this guy at all... :?

[mecca_boy]

i think u need to re read over.

95% of mc agrees with the changes and they are being mad eby request.

u are part of the 5% who disagrees.

what i said to u was said politley but straight forward, you are the one coming on here attacking me.

MACRO MACRO

ZOMG ZO<MG ZOMG MACRO!!!!

i dont macro, if i did macro get some proof and present it, until that point
stfu GTFO or yes u will get banned and it wont be abusing authority.


and yes Tana im fuking scared of him, internet gangsters, this guy is a fuking interior designer for god sakem, hes a flaming homosexual trying to say hes going to lay me out......

zzzz

BACK ON TOPIC



see midori, the things i do for u, now i get abused for implementing ur ideas =P


so are you telling me that i can marco all i want but if their is no proof that i marco i will not get banned?

[Tokkiez]

no well catch you and get you banned.

Remember im online most of the time watching the community :shock:

:P

[mecca_boy]

no well catch you and get you banned.

Remember im online most of the time watching the community :shock:

:P

my moms a stay at home wife and will be glady to answer my pms plus msn all day :)

[strEetRAcer]

Yea man.. me too, hence this conversation..

i dnt have the time to race no more.. i work close to 14hours mon-fri , and i would love to see AP go ..and im glad/hope it gains no CMs/EXP at all .. im a racer and did it the hard way.. watching all these guys get away with leaving there account on AP all day to do all there work ..does **** me off..but meh ...

But you're argument is extremely hypocritical.. Let me explain: You say AP sucks cause while you're working to make ends meet, other people are on AP and/or online getting exp and CMs...

#1 You can be on AP too! While at work it can seem as if you're online gaining CMs for your crew but not gaining as much EXP as you would be online, but still some... and as an added bonus your ratio will remain good for gaining more CMs per race.

#2 If you take out AP.. The people online are still going to get more CMs and EXP than you since you can be there anyways! The people who can be online all day are going to dominate you, whether they're actually online or not... (don't want to mention that bad word around here)

I thought the idea was to bring the competition closer... but again, IN MY OPINION, I think it will increase the gap. We Shall See.. only time will tell.. and good luck to all

[rom3o™]

He did have the macro for a short time but he has stopped using it as I have seen and he has been racing like crazy online to get that lvl up to hopefully catcg Turkstar and I but we will see

correct, i did macro for 2 days and kevin and few others complained to raymond which is fair, i have heavy time restrictions, raymond spoke to me and i stop imediatley.

since then i have stoped, ive taken 2 days off work and im trying to race, but to much shit going on so i wont make it any ways.

i make 4 bil a work now time to shoot for first ^^

[rom3o™]

#1 You can be on AP too! While at work it can seem as if you're online gaining CMs for your crew but not gaining as much EXP as you would be online, but still some... and as an added bonus your ratio will remain good for gaining more CMs per race.

#2 If you take out AP.. The people online are still going to get more CMs and EXP than you since you can be there anyways! The people who can be online all day are going to dominate you, whether they're actually online or not... (don't want to mention that bad word around here)

I thought the idea was to bring the competition closer... but again, IN MY OPINION, I think it will increase the gap. We Shall See.. only time will tell.. and good luck to all


This game is about racing, not about a program that will do it for you, b4 any one comments on what i say make sure u know how long some of us have been around and the times we spent days after days whipping speed and racing for cms.

this game is about a few things, Racing and the Players, there was a time mate when there was no AP, ap was an added convenience which most of the players dont like.

if u cant stay online and race all day, then to bad mate, time for some new kids to take some icons and own.

u dont seem to understand u and all fo about 10 people who want things to stay as they are have no say in the matter so complaining wont help.

if u dont like the changes dont play, just like hundreds of people ive seen leave this game for tha reason, sticking around and complaining about what benefits the MAJORITY of mc, is useless.

[Vendetta]

Completely agree with that! AP should only remain to improve peoples win/loss ratios if you cant put the time into the game then you arent going to get the results you want you think Turk and I got as high a level as we did by using AP. Hell no ap exp is nothing but I like them lowereing it even more and I hate that at most there are 20 people actually online nowadays because that is definately the lowest I have seen it in the 4+ years I have played.

[AI2SeNaL]

Yea man.. me too, hence this conversation..

i dnt have the time to race no more.. i work close to 14hours mon-fri , and i would love to see AP go ..and im glad/hope it gains no CMs/EXP at all .. im a racer and did it the hard way.. watching all these guys get away with leaving there account on AP all day to do all there work ..does **** me off..but meh ...

But you're argument is extremely hypocritical.. Let me explain: You say AP sucks cause while you're working to make ends meet, other people are on AP and/or online getting exp and CMs...

#1 You can be on AP too! While at work it can seem as if you're online gaining CMs for your crew but not gaining as much EXP as you would be online, but still some... and as an added bonus your ratio will remain good for gaining more CMs per race.

#2 If you take out AP.. The people online are still going to get more CMs and EXP than you since you can be there anyways! The people who can be online all day are going to dominate you, whether they're actually online or not... (don't want to mention that bad word around here)

I thought the idea was to bring the competition closer... but again, IN MY OPINION, I think it will increase the gap. We Shall See.. only time will tell.. and good luck to all

..talk to me like i dont know this :s ... i know all this.. people that have less time to play the game should not be allowed to let AP do all there work..and people online more should own me*but i cant see half of them doing that anyways ,if i did play during the time i get to*When AP 1st started i would spend get top 5 NW set my marco to lvl me up every hour or so while i was at work..shit i only loged in to work my account... now AP is looking abit better taking away exp.. IF they do take away CM gain'n then sweet..

btw i cant member the last time i had a ratio of less then .95 this is with AP and with out AP ..worryed bout your win/loss if they take AP away.. ummm sell your car offline?tends to help? or stay online longer to get your lvl higher

[strEetRAcer]

Rom3o.. are you still talking to me directly? Cause it seems as if you haven't understood me quite yet.. So read up.. get closer to the screen if you have to... The only problem with the changes is that macros will come back. This is the first session I played with AP, I'm well aware of the fact of how it used to be. AP was introduced for a couple reasons, do you know them? Please tell me, because apparently we think for different reasons...


...I say stick with the changes too, I'm online all the time, it's only going to help me... I'm already online for most of the day as it is, not much work to send/accept races every four minutes. All I'm saying is stop the macros when the arrive, and they will... So again we'll see

[Tokkiez]

and when it does arrive ill take care of it.

so stop whining and bitching about it.

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Thanks rome, but it has most of the yay votes instead of the ney votes. haha

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

I love people acting official when they have no power what so ever.

what do you mean by power? EVERYONE here has equal say in ANYTHING, thats what the MC COMMUNITY is.

The mods, dont have power over anyone here, if you obey the Forum rules... NOT THEIRS, but the forum rules. yeah they could ban you, but theres a reason for it.

They threaten to ban you because youre bringing in nothing but pointless DRAMA in here, all you have to do is post your points and be done with, its obvious that they read what you wrote because of the response they wrote. And yes there will be disagreements because everyones thoughts are different. YOU WERE HEARD, and if you cant post anything thatll help the topic, then dont.

IM NOT A MOD, but i could give 2 shits if i get banned... im helping more than hurting.

IM NOT DIRECTING THIS TO YOU JDM. ITS FOR EVERYONE.

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Rom3o.. are you still talking to me directly? Cause it seems as if you haven't understood me quite yet.. So read up.. get closer to the screen if you have to... The only problem with the changes is that macros will come back. This is the first session I played with AP, I'm well aware of the fact of how it used to be. AP was introduced for a couple reasons, do you know them? Please tell me, because apparently we think for different reasons...


...I say stick with the changes too, I'm online all the time, it's only going to help me... I'm already online for most of the day as it is, not much work to send/accept races every four minutes. All I'm saying is stop the macros when the arrive, and they will... So again we'll see

THEYRE ALREADY BACK, as you know, so whats your point?

[ROB_33]

i like the changes.... and who cares if people are using a macro... romeo has been hit plenty of times and lost cars to pinks because of it... do i think its crap if he gets wwiii yes i do but hey we all know if your part of kk you will not get banned and thats just part of it.... and i know all the mods probably gonna jump on me for that but you all know it! lets just get this round done and start fresh next round... bigger crews and if people start using macros just hit them!

[rom3o™]

i macrod for a short time and i was given a serious warning that would result in ban if not followed through with.

so i complied end of story, will i make ide? no i wont, why? because even though i have to spend 10$ every day to stay at 40 bil net because 100 kunts hit me the support the others recieved was great.

macro helped me 1 level, geting past level 48 YAY FUKING AWESOME!!!!

dont try tell me people in our crew wont get banned cos your wrong mate, let me say again u havent bin around long u have no idea how this game works, u join the game, u try to play like a big timer and look like a fool.

what have u brought to the game? wheres your major contributions? oh wait uve done nothing really......

i come on here not because i have to but i felt it would b good to inform people of the changes at hand but a few people just cant help them selves n need to offtopic this as per usual.

zzzzz

[ROB_33]

hahahaha i know i am a noob i dont think i am a big timer i think its funny that you all take it so seriously... i said from the very begining to whoever asked me or said anything to me that i dont have the slightest idea of whats going on.... i didnt come here to make friends i came to play a game... thats what this is... A GAME... yeah i talk shit like everyone else does.... gets on peoples nerves doesnt it.... why do you say i think i am a big timer? cause i have hit you 20+ times this round or is it because i say what i think? i only know how to hit cause of shit people told me just like everyone else i say what i think cause why be a pussy and hold back... wow some people get fired up over some small time shit on the net.... hahaha
i'm out

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

ROB the way you present yourself makes you seem like your a BIG TIME player, like you said, you talk alot of shit.... Your a "noob" like you said, so you + talking shit + noob = Trouble for the real big timers.

i am NOT a BIG TIMER, but i dont talk shit to anyone. Im sure you would be a little frustrated if you got hit 30+ times a day. Dont say you wouldnt care, cause you would if you were trying for first, or for IDE. it sucks.

im NOT bashing on you or taking Rom3o's side, but im just taking facts from what you said and pointing them out.

[Lil-Luceifer]

Midori joo are almost big time you can be a Jr. Vet

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

haha nah no ways, these medals mean nothing. im still a noob myself. but thanks.

[Amped8000]

anyways to get back on topic after this catfight, whats the other way to get cm's going to be

[slacker-god]

I am saddened that Ray didn't take a little more care in choosing moderators who didn't ban people on a whim or swear at people and then tell them to stop swearing...seriously the selective censorship needs to stop.
But I am more saddened by Streetracer with whom I happen to agree but because he goes about his argument in such an abrasive manner no one will listen to him.
I find it strange that this debate is happening at the end of the session when historically the number of people logged in at the end is always low (wonderwoman phrased it as "being ninja" <3). AP levels the playing field in alot of ways and does in fact limit Macro usage simply for the fact that it makes them so visible. When Rom3o was using it it was pretty obvious because he was the only one logged in for long periods of time. Without AP Macro users can hide in a crowd.
With AP people can still cheat, creating multis and placing themselves on the AP list...it's obvious people will cheat no matter the circumstances but AP, in my opinion, lessens the impact.
This game is constantly evolving, which is part of its charm, so let the changes take effect, we'll see the outcome in the next session (and lets be civil about it hmmmm?) but in the coming session I ask that we start this debate a little earlier so that the ultimate decision to change important elements of the game isn't pressured by time constraints.

[Vendetta]

I am saddened that Ray didn't take a little more care in choosing moderators who didn't ban people on a whim or swear at people and then tell them to stop swearing...seriously the selective censorship needs to stop.
But I am more saddened by Streetracer with whom I happen to agree but because he goes about his argument in such an abrasive manner no one will listen to him.
I find it strange that this debate is happening at the end of the session when historically the number of people logged in at the end is always low (wonderwoman phrased it as "being ninja" <3). AP levels the playing field in alot of ways and does in fact limit Macro usage simply for the fact that it makes them so visible. When Rom3o was using it it was pretty obvious because he was the only one logged in for long periods of time. Without AP Macro users can hide in a crowd.
With AP people can still cheat, creating multis and placing themselves on the AP list...it's obvious people will cheat no matter the circumstances but AP, in my opinion, lessens the impact.
This game is constantly evolving, which is part of its charm, so let the changes take effect, we'll see the outcome in the next session (and lets be civil about it hmmmm?) but in the coming session I ask that we start this debate a little earlier so that the ultimate decision to change important elements of the game isn't pressured by time constraints.

Finishes Reading and silently applauses, then returns to dominating

[o_O_MIDORI_O_o]

Cheers man, nicely said, im looking forward to these changes if they are applied. Will make racing return.

[slickNsxy]

wow...this thread went to hell real fast

nice job guys

oh btw i can be on easy for 15 hours a day racing online. I've done it before and can do it again. Never used a macro/bot and refuse to use AP. You dont have to cheat to win, you have to be smarter

[PIMP_4_LIFE]

wow...this thread went to hell real fast

nice job guys

oh btw i can be on easy for 15 hours a day racing online. I've done it before and can do it again. Never used a macro/bot and refuse to use AP. You dont have to cheat to win, you have to be smarter


finally someone who understands :D

[Tokkiez]

I am saddened that Ray didn't take a little more care in choosing moderators who didn't ban people on a whim or swear at people and then tell them to stop swearing...seriously the selective censorship needs to stop.
But I am more saddened by Streetracer with whom I happen to agree but because he goes about his argument in such an abrasive manner no one will listen to him.
I find it strange that this debate is happening at the end of the session when historically the number of people logged in at the end is always low (wonderwoman phrased it as "being ninja" <3). AP levels the playing field in alot of ways and does in fact limit Macro usage simply for the fact that it makes them so visible. When Rom3o was using it it was pretty obvious because he was the only one logged in for long periods of time. Without AP Macro users can hide in a crowd.
With AP people can still cheat, creating multis and placing themselves on the AP list...it's obvious people will cheat no matter the circumstances but AP, in my opinion, lessens the impact.
This game is constantly evolving, which is part of its charm, so let the changes take effect, we'll see the outcome in the next session (and lets be civil about it hmmmm?) but in the coming session I ask that we start this debate a little earlier so that the ultimate decision to change important elements of the game isn't pressured by time constraints.

well said even quoted me >.<.

Although ive only banned 1 person and that was after multiple warnings xp and for good reasons.

Also with up there. Anyone in kk wont get banned. Haha

Thats funny because thats not true. Ask anyone, ive been banned a few times. Same as romeo, same as a few other people. So dont accuse us of your insignificant bullshit.

The playing field is level and its not our problem if you cant keep up. Thats just how it works.

Although thats why a few of us does give a hand out to new people or people who want icons and why is the whole point of romeo macroing popping up again.

He already admitted to it and stopped. Ray also has already given warnings and showed consenquences of that.

So drop it and lets get on with the subject

[Tokkiez]

wow...this thread went to hell real fast

nice job guys

oh btw i can be on easy for 15 hours a day racing online. I've done it before and can do it again. Never used a macro/bot and refuse to use AP. You dont have to cheat to win, you have to be smarter

well said.

you have to play next session dorkie!

[Vendetta]

pointless thread, locked

Oh shit i cant do that nvm continue adding to the stupidity of this thread everyone including myself

[slickNsxy]

what was this thread about again?

[skogey10]

Stop trying to act smart slacker-god. That's my job, and if you don't like it I can smack you out with a stack of sheepskins OK? The moderators are people, and people tend to moderate those that drive others nuts and generally rub people the wrong way, like you. You're a noob and don't see how to do everything yet or how to get around things and to do well with less credits and time - because of this you get mad and complain and take your frustrations out in here. Don't bother, we've seen a hundred of you and when you get tired of being beaten every round and getting nowhere and leave, there will be a hundred more just like you to follow.

[Tokkiez]

well said to chinkie

[strEetRAcer]

I'm trying so hard to stay quiet.. but the hypocrisy is getting out of hand... :? *shakes head*

I can only hope that some of you grow out further than the 2 foot bubble you're all living in right now

[AI2SeNaL]

oh btw i can be on easy for 15 hours a day racing online. I've done it before and can do it again. Never used a macro/bot and refuse to use AP. You dont have to cheat to win, you have to be smarter


sabi ng iba ikaw daw ang pinakamawais na manlalaro sa larong ito;biro lang ok;;;

[Tokkiez]

oh some flip huh. let me get my dorkie and we can bust some flip on yo ass too.

haha

[mecca_boy]

I'm trying so hard to stay quiet.. but the hypocrisy is getting out of hand... :? *shakes head*

I can only hope that some of you grow out further than the 2 foot bubble you're all living in right now


How is it hard to fuckin stay quite like fuck its not hard just dont post where your not needed simple as that


*wishses had mod powers to ban your ass*

[numba1stuna76]

uh... well i guess i'll kind of get back on topic here:

about the point being made about how AP was supposed to help stem the "macro" problem, from what i've noticed since coming back to MNC is that shlt hasn't really changed. before, instead of "macros" being the problem, it was the use of "multis". now i'm no wise-man, but i don't really see much difference with the AP system. obviously, this does not apply to the majority of MNC players (i would hope...), but i don't see how setting one's AP to race the same people (friends, cousins, moms, dads, sisters, grand parents, or god forbid "brothers")- whose account(s) remain at the same NW, exp level, etc the entire session- is really any different than people setting up "multis" to race themselves like in the past.

I personally don't really care either way about it, because i figure that no matter what, there will be people who will attempt to beat the system. it's happened since the beginning of the game, and it is still happening now.

on another note, i agree with whoever made the suggestion to abolish the NW range restriction for racing online. it makes sense to have it for offline play, so that it doesn't turn into another situation where all you do is log in and race the top person X amount of times to gain exp. (ex: danny_ocean lol)

finally, i agree completely with what midori has said about talking shlt, being a noob/vet, and about knowing where u stand in the MNC community. i'm pretty sure that for the most part, no one REALLY cares how much of a hard-ass you are or how gangsta' u can be.

even though i've been a registered member for hella long, i don't consider myself to be a "vet","pro", or w/e. I have the respect of other players because i earned it. I've never really talked shlt about other players because i've never needed to. sure I’ve had beefs with certain players and the cliques they associated with. like in the sessions where i was almost ALWAYS online racing, the crew i was in would end up getting "burned" out of first place in the last week of the session, and all my effort would be in vain. so instead of crying and bitching about it i learned how to steal and just HI'd, boosted, and recruited the living shlt out of people. i eventually got fed up with the drama and the "game changes", so i quit. for some reason, i decided to "check in" at the end of the last session, and here i am again.lol -.-'

so yeah, that's my two cents. :roll:

[slacker-god]

Stop trying to act smart slacker-god. That's my job, and if you don't like it I can smack you out with a stack of sheepskins OK? The moderators are people, and people tend to moderate those that drive others nuts and generally rub people the wrong way, like you. You're a noob and don't see how to do everything yet or how to get around things and to do well with less credits and time - because of this you get mad and complain and take your frustrations out in here. Don't bother, we've seen a hundred of you and when you get tired of being beaten every round and getting nowhere and leave, there will be a hundred more just like you to follow.

Silly canadian i've been here longer than you think, wink. :wink:

[joedabooger]

fuck off cunt...get a massive dick in you

[R_Y_A_N]

F*** off c***...get a massive dick in you

Yea Nels, I bet hes really hurting now

[end sarcasim]

[AI2SeNaL]

F*** off c***...get a massive dick in you

and yet another useless post from joe.. male pms :?

[Tokkiez]

uh... well i guess i'll kind of get back on topic here:

about the point being made about how AP was supposed to help stem the "macro" problem, from what i've noticed since coming back to MNC is that shlt hasn't really changed. before, instead of "macros" being the problem, it was the use of "multis". now i'm no wise-man, but i don't really see much difference with the AP system. obviously, this does not apply to the majority of MNC players (i would hope...), but i don't see how setting one's AP to race the same people (friends, cousins, moms, dads, sisters, grand parents, or god forbid "brothers")- whose account(s) remain at the same NW, exp level, etc the entire session- is really any different than people setting up "multis" to race themselves like in the past.

I personally don't really care either way about it, because i figure that no matter what, there will be people who will attempt to beat the system. it's happened since the beginning of the game, and it is still happening now.

on another note, i agree with whoever made the suggestion to abolish the NW range restriction for racing online. it makes sense to have it for offline play, so that it doesn't turn into another situation where all you do is log in and race the top person X amount of times to gain exp. (ex: danny_ocean lol)

finally, i agree completely with what midori has said about talking shlt, being a noob/vet, and about knowing where u stand in the MNC community. i'm pretty sure that for the most part, no one REALLY cares how much of a hard-ass you are or how gangsta' u can be.

even though i've been a registered member for hella long, i don't consider myself to be a "vet","pro", or w/e. I have the respect of other players because i earned it. I've never really talked shlt about other players because i've never needed to. sure I’ve had beefs with certain players and the cliques they associated with. like in the sessions where i was almost ALWAYS online racing, the crew i was in would end up getting "burned" out of first place in the last week of the session, and all my effort would be in vain. so instead of crying and bitching about it i learned how to steal and just HI'd, boosted, and recruited the living shlt out of people. i eventually got fed up with the drama and the "game changes", so i quit. for some reason, i decided to "check in" at the end of the last session, and here i am again.lol -.-'

so yeah, that's my two cents. :roll:

well said.

[Wild^Turkey]

i like the rule changs, but this thread is bullshit. i love ya comment joe and we all know that truth about macs and who use's them for fuck sake!
its just bullshit. fuck integrity i say!
lets all be dodgy cheating cunts and fuck the game again!!!

i dont post much, so thats my 2 cents!
BLAHHH
HTFU!

[skogey10]

Why wink smartass? Compared to me you ARE a noob. Period.

[projectjdm]

Its crazy how people turn on each other. A few people speak there minds and BAM, all hell breaks lose. Can we seriously not discuss the next session changes without a fight? I mean, its going to affect us all, so why not collaberate together? Anyways, whatever changes are made I dont care, I will play no matter what.

[skogey10]

Who turned? I've always disliked the mouthy little bastard. You can all speak your minds, but I do the same and then people cry and complain.

[projectjdm]

Who turned? I've always disliked the mouthy little bastard. You can all speak your minds, but I do the same and then people cry and complain.

Just saying in general, not directed towards you. Some of the new members *no offense* should actually listen to the old timers, I mean shit, they have been here the longest, they know whats best for the game. It may not be convient for everyone, yet it set the playing field to be fair.

[skogey10]

Exactly, some of us do nothing but help people in-game and in the forums. YET people still complain constantly about anything they can.

[strEetRAcer]

I don't complain about everything I can.. I just stated my opinion on one issue, one I consider to be quite a big decision.. And all of a sudden Mecca wants to ban me, lol, that was funny

[skogey10]

Sounds good. Streetracer, have your opinion but try and limit it's damage to others. I'm the one that is allowed to do that :P

Now talk about what the thread intended.

[Tokkiez]

I don't complain about everything I can.. I just stated my opinion on one issue, one I consider to be quite a big decision.. And all of a sudden Mecca wants to ban me, lol, that was funny

i honestly agree with mecca. you say you dont complain but thats all you do. You whine and cry.

Instead of you disccusing this thread in a proper manner, you accuse moderators of macroing and talk in appropriate shit, while thinking of smart aleck answers.

If you want to accuse someone of something find some proof first. Also before you talk know your place in mc son. Your just mad because ap is not going to be in your favor.

Ap is suppose to be in the majority's favor and doesnt mean the minority like u dont like it that were going to implement what u like.

Dont be mad at certain players for your noobieness and learn to play.

Just cause you cant hang doesnt mean you have to try and flame other people so you can look "cool"

Honestly give me one reason why i shouldnt ban you and better be a good one because ive had enough of your trash talking smart aleck responses.

[strEetRAcer]

One mod says.. coo.. the other wants to ban me (for nothing)...


... you're one reason.. You couldn't be any more wrong..

#1 This is the only thing I've disagreed with, not complaining nor 'whining'.. just stating an opinion.

#2 Never accused Rom3o_

#3 Ap IS going to be in my favor

#4 I believe I do know how to play.. quite well as a matter of fact

#5 Cant hang with what? The top players.. Not for free, you're right

#6 I flame because it's fun.. not to be cool

Take it or leave it.. but get off my back about it.. Sorry if my abrasiveness hurt some feelings... I made my point, defended against opposition, backed it up with facts.. and am moving on.. You want me to stop 'damaging' others.. Then why don't you start with your fingers.. Cause i'm holding back angie, maybe you should too

[numba1stuna76]

so i came up with this brilliant idea, and seeing as how this thread is titled NEXT SESSION CHANGES, i figured this would be the appropriate place for it...

how bout a top recruiter icon! :P

::runs:: lol

[Tokkiez]

ban you for nothing?

weve given u multiple warnings and you still disregard them

you post useless shit and think your a smart ass. Dont hold back now. Since your so "tough kiddo"

Come on bring it on and im not the only moderator that feels this way.


#6 I flame because it's fun.. not to be cool


and if you want to do that do it somewhere else. Not this thread when were trying to show people the changes. You flaming here just doesnt quite work out.

Im tired of your useless posts and your responses isnt good enough. Learn some manners.


Banned