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HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 05:58 PM
well i think it would be cool to have a top 10 crew icon to put some fun in the game....most people race to 10 anymore....2 crews go for top and thats it....i think if u do this or try it out a few rounds to see if we can get peeps to race and be online......be real good for the new players cause i see ALOT join the game and then never come back....or even a top 3 or 5

A_n_i_M_a_L_
01-07-2009, 06:00 PM
That not a bad idea actually. Maybe top 3 like you mentioned mind you...

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:03 PM
That not a bad idea actually. Maybe top 3 like you mentioned mind you...


then vote n00b :P lol

Big_Bang
01-07-2009, 06:04 PM
I say top 3 crews. Not top 10...it's easy to get top 10.

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:09 PM
so i should make a new poll lol.....im turnn more toward the n00bs to get them to try harder and be online....id say more like top 5 would be good but id be happy with top 3

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-07-2009, 06:13 PM
then vote n00b :P lol

There is an icon for the top crew only. You sit here and call Animal a noob, yet you want a top TEN crew icon?

Are there even 10 crews active anymore?

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:16 PM
There is an icon for the top crew only. You sit here and call Animal a noob, yet you want a top TEN crew icon?

Are there even 10 crews active anymore?

was joking with him and they said top 3 so i was makin a new 1....now your getting out of line as a mod....and excuse me if i dont know how to do a poll right....

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:20 PM
i also have a right to post a thread and reply just like every1 else

He_Hate_Me
01-07-2009, 06:26 PM
LOL

I mentioned this a while back and every body basically puked on it.

I def think that more than just one crew should get a reward. Top 3 sounds perfectly fair to me, and gives more than just 2 crews (or most times 1) a chance for showing their skills.

I know a lot of people disagree, but to me there is absolutely no negative from this

He_Hate_Me
01-07-2009, 06:28 PM
haha

he makes an updated poll so people can narrow down what they want to vote for, and it gets closed......makes sense

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:29 PM
LOL

I mentioned this a while back and every body basically puked on it.

I def think that more than just one crew should get a reward. Top 3 sounds perfectly fair to me, and gives more than just 2 crews (or most times 1) a chance for showing their skills.

I know a lot of people disagree, but to me there is absolutely no negative from this

well i tryed to make a new poll since every1 was pointing toward to top 3 but mr danny boy locked it before i could post it.....were all tryn to find new things to sweetn the game and get more peeps to stick around

He_Hate_Me
01-07-2009, 06:32 PM
yea i noticed that, and I thought the new poll was the one that should have been kept.

Power Trip anyone? lol

Im afraid to post anything now not sure if im gonna get banned for some dumb shit. Lol, soon, everyone is gonna be banned and the mods will have no one to moderate.

On topic tho, Im even for top 5 crews getting a medal, but top 3 I think will be the choice most people make.

Is it just me, or has MC come to a place where its all about who can get the most medals in a round haha. I dunno, MC was just a lot different back in 03 i guess

You got vets taking WW3 and every other possible medal every round. What happened to keeping vets out of 1-20 IDE? Give some people who havent gotten any medals yet a chance

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:37 PM
yea i noticed that, and I thought the new poll was the one that should have been kept.

Power Trip anyone? lol

Im afraid to post anything now not sure if im gonna get banned for some dumb shit. Lol, soon, everyone is gonna be banned and the mods will have no one to moderate.

On topic tho, Im even for top 5 crews getting a medal, but top 3 I think will be the choice most people make.

Is it just me, or has MC come to a place where its all about who can get the most medals in a round haha. I dunno, MC was just a lot different back in 03 i guess

You got vets taking WW3 and every other possible medal every round. What happened to keeping vets out of 1-20 IDE? Give some people who havent gotten any medals yet a chance

power trip no doubt and i hope ray sees this and strips his mod rights cause i was shootn toward what every1 was saying....this 1 should have been locked and other one kept open

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-07-2009, 06:53 PM
Wow, you two are funny.

Harold, you don't need numberous threads about the same thing. Discuss your idea here, and you haven't begun to see a power trip ;)

HeartBeatStoper
01-07-2009, 06:58 PM
Wow, you two are funny.

Harold, you don't need numberous threads about the same thing. Discuss your idea here, and you haven't begun to see a power trip ;)

thx for changing it danny

Daggermouth
01-07-2009, 07:17 PM
I'm for top 3 crew, but the #1 crew should get a different icon for winning.

He_Hate_Me
01-07-2009, 07:18 PM
I'm for top 3 crew, but the #1 crew should get a different icon for winning.

most defenitely.

How about top crew gets a certain medal color like gold, while 2nd gets silver and 3rd gets bronze?

BTW what did he change? everything looks the same to me still all fourteen of your polls floating around locked like they were before. ALL 14!

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-07-2009, 07:29 PM
BTW what did he change? everything looks the same to me still all fourteen of your polls floating around locked like they were before. ALL 14!

View Poll Results: would u like to have a top 3 crew icon for game

I fixxed his poll instead of him making a new one.

He_Hate_Me
01-07-2009, 07:31 PM
OOOh got ya, I didnt know what it was before

spiderman
01-07-2009, 08:55 PM
If PANDAhumpnMONKEY is a mod for this forum , then Ray is scraping the very bottom of the barrel . Tells people to learn to do polls correctly , but there isn't anyway of learning , except just to try one . So shut up and moderate if that's your job . Otherwise , butt out .

LuDe
01-07-2009, 10:57 PM
hell no...thats stupid...look this jus proves how dumb it is...last season EZE came in like 2nd place...and how much racing did u actually see us do...all we did was mess people up...i dont c how our 10 mil on the board compares or comes close to the billions that the top crew came...this is not good because i mean that complete degrades the top crew...

LuDe
01-07-2009, 11:03 PM
If PANDAhumpnMONKEY is a mod for this forum , then Ray is scraping the very bottom of the barrel . Tells people to learn to do polls correctly , but there isn't anyway of learning , except just to try one . So shut up and moderate if that's your job . Otherwise , butt out .

wow spidey take it easy...hahaha...danny is finally coming back, dont wanna flame up this thread...lol...

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 01:12 AM
how does it degrade top crew? Its still an honor to be in number one crew lol, rather than 3rd.

1st still would have a bonus in the next round, their name in red/white, and a completely different medal.

Im certainly not proposing that 2nd and 3rd have those same bonuses as the number 1.

You guys might not have done much, but neither did anyone else last round. Look at your crew members, and besides if you came in 2nd you obviously were doing something more than the other crews.

I think you'll see a lot more crews competing if they made these changes. It gives people a reason to make a crew.

Lets face it, there are only so many top players that actively play. Most of them compose the top two crews, and without good people in your crew of course its going to suck. Basically, theres ALWAYS no more than 1 or 2 crews actually making an effort for the top. That, to me, is stupid and defeats the purpose of crew battles.

If all the other crews realized how much of a chance they DIDNT have, lol they all would disband and we would have 2 crews in crew battles (dont forget the helpers) and that would be really pointless.

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 01:15 AM
and just a little correction, EZE came in 3rd.

Still good tho, but I see these other crews that actively compete to get on top ten yet they can never come close to number 1 or 2, for the most part.

Why not give the little guys a piece of the "proverbial" pie

Remember, Top crew still gives you bonuses, a different medal, and your names in red/white

2nd and 3rd is simply more of a consolation prize

Lol and honestly looking back at recent past games is kinda sad. Pretty much like I said, 1 - 2 crews max that ever had a chance. The other thing I noticed, is less and less crews actually putting in an effort.

MC_Alumni
01-08-2009, 02:10 AM
I dont think the top 3 crews should get an icon/medal. I think the top 3 maybe even the top 5 deserve some sort of benefit for the next round though. Maybe additional sponsorship rating or something. The details could be discussed later though. No medals but im down for a reward

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 02:38 AM
See I think it should be the other way. Top crews gets the bonuses of top crew.

Other two just get a shabby medal thats no where near as nice as the other ones.

Either way, there should be some sort of incentive for the other crews

Victorious
01-08-2009, 06:10 AM
I'm with Lude. I personally believe, this is one of the stupidest ideas that has been posted to "improve" the game. Giving out more medals to people that don't win, just for the simple fact that you want them to play would only happen in America.

If they want a medal, or care about medals they will try to get #1. If they are signing on for a month, and never coming back because they didn't win #1 in Crew.. They really don't care about the medals. They just don't like the game.

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 08:07 AM
Funny, because thats the stupidest way of looking at it. Only somewhere else than America would someone think that.

Lol, let me give you a quick history lesson. America's all about equality (or so we claim!) and giving the little guy a voice. Sure, we get called crazy, but that aint bothering nobody.

Did you ever consider the reasons that people only play for a session? They probably made an account, got spammed 300 times in 20 mins, got their car stolen, models recruited, and HId.

The thing is, adding two more medals doesnt take away from anything. It doesnt take away from all you people worried about top crew. Its great that you guys like competing against yourselves and occasionally one other, but its lame to everyone playing thats not in a top crew.

Browse thru the history and you see a BLOWOUT almost every round. Lol, the top crew usually has NO competition, except for the occasional one other crew. So really, top crew competes against themselves half the time. Go figure they win they are the only crew thats serious about playing.
And why should other crews be serious about their crew, they never have a chance.

Its stupid that one to two crews of vets slaughter all the rest every round. Lol if someone EVERY single round won by 10x the person in 2nds nw, EVERY SINGLE ROUND Id think people would start to get sick of it.

I really just want a simple explanation on how this takes away from TOP crew. What exactly are we taking away besides nothing. We arent giving 2nd and 3rd crews ANYTHING other than a medal.

All im saying is, the current crew system is completely LAME. Lol, there might as well be 6 people playing and only 1 total crew. Then everybody could brag about how they won every round.
I dont see any top players being serious about starting their own crew and competing. People who leave top crew usually make their own joker crew that runs 22 seconds in crew battles. Great Competition let me tell ya.

I cant stress enough how stupid this game will be when EVERYONE figures out they dont have a chance and just gives up. Take away the multiple accounts people use for spam racing and your left with like 25-50 people. Then is it really considered bragging rights to take a Top Crew? lol, if you say so.

What if everyone realized they didnt have a chance for a TOP crew and decided not to have a crew that round. Then, everyone realizes they need to be getting out of their cars.

Now we have no one to race, and no crews. (cept the helpers) SOUNDS FUN

crazyfrog555
01-08-2009, 10:18 AM
Im with Bryce and Vic...We don't need anymore medals in the game tbh...the 3 that are in suggestion section are fine but top 10 crew defo a no no and it aint top 3 it would be 2nd and 3rd crew but 3rd crew would come easy so no maybe 2nd crew just for actully trying but w/e.

HeartBeatStoper
01-08-2009, 10:51 AM
I'm with Lude. I personally believe, this is one of the stupidest ideas that has been posted to "improve" the game. Giving out more medals to people that don't win, just for the simple fact that you want them to play would only happen in America.

If they want a medal, or care about medals they will try to get #1. If they are signing on for a month, and never coming back because they didn't win #1 in Crew.. They really don't care about the medals. They just don't like the game.

stupid to u and maybe to lude but i dont see no1 else posting any ideas....if shits gonna be called stupid then every1 who has a idea just keep it to yourself cause people like this dickweed will just call it stupid..so lets hear your ideas to help n00bs get somewhere and get them to compete and stick around which is what this thread is about

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-08-2009, 11:34 AM
wow spidey take it easy...hahaha...danny is finally coming back, dont wanna flame up this thread...lol...

It wasn't spiderman, it was Renzuli. His forum account was banned, I unbanned it..

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 05:56 PM
stupid to u and maybe to lude but i dont see no1 else posting any ideas....if shits gonna be called stupid then every1 who has a idea just keep it to yourself cause people like this dickweed will just call it stupid..so lets hear your ideas to help n00bs get somewhere and get them to compete and stick around which is what this thread is about

Cant agree more. As of right now, 2nd and 3rd crew may seem easy to everybody. And your probably right, if there were more medals all that means is that more vets would purposely set out to get them.

It would probably result in 3 top crews that just rotated members, similar to what it is now. So maybe new medals isnt a good idea.

But a worse idea is keeping the crew system the way it is. It plain sucks. Its basically compareable to one person having 2 trillion nw every single round and completely demolishing everyone else, EVERY SINGLE ROUND.

The problem is, 2nd and 3rd crew are easy to get right now, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER CREWS! Dont people understand thats why its so damn easy? Your competing against yourselves for top crew!

Im trying to get some gameplay here thats actually worth bragging about. You dont see vets from former top crews starting their own crews and making a true effort. Instead, they make crews that everyone will deny as a helper crew, but we all know damn well it is.

When did it become about who can hog up the most medals, instead of making some good ol fashioned competition.

If the top two crews right now disbanded and made say 5 crews, that would be a fight for top crew worth competing over. Good players teaching other people how to be good and competing with your friends.

And dont see this as me calling anyone out because im simply stating the facts. Im not finger pointing or name calling, im just trying to point out the flaws in the game thru my eyes

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-08-2009, 06:12 PM
Two things..

One, he hate me, change ur signature.. it's not funny, kay?

Two, he does have a point.. Why should anyone go for top if same ppl are gonna get it everytime? Or even the same two crews? Downside would be people going for 2nd to get an icon, so either it'll help competition or kill it? OR! More people would try for top crew, hey! If we lose, we still get an icon for 2nd!

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Two things..


OR! More people would try for top crew, hey! If we lose, we still get an icon for 2nd!

Thats what Im aiming towards, is better and more competition. I think its great that people are good enough to pretty much control the game, but it probably is what leads to a lot of people leaving this game too.

Beast
01-08-2009, 07:33 PM
If it does become an icon it should be a temporary one that you only get for one month.

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-08-2009, 08:31 PM
I honestly wouldn't see the point of a temp. icon...

Summit_Racing
01-08-2009, 08:41 PM
Okay id like to add my thought on this....Make winning Top crew just like any other icon...such as if you win top crew, you are not allowed to win it again for 2-3 sessions.

This would stop the Top players from staying on Top and give new players a chance.I agree those that win have the credits to stay on top.

Sure would hate to be a new player to login and every race i have is a lose...what do they really have to play for? Top 10...nope..IDE no the same players take that all the time and if not they have someone tune there car for them to win it.

This game is too onesided...but as far as TOP Crews go..Make it so you cannot win again for 2-3 sessions.

As far as Top 3 crew Icons...Sure but again make it like IDE...

He_Hate_Me
01-08-2009, 08:54 PM
I like the idea of top crews not being able to compete again for 2-3 sessions, and I think thats how it should be with all of the medals, cept for thefts.

Dont look at it as a bad thing, look at it as a way to get some of those extra medals you havent gotten yet. I think people will be surprised to be given a run for the money for once.

My question is, is the whole crew not allowed to get top crew for 2 - 3 rounds? Also, if they took 1st can they just go and take 2nd and 3rd right after that?

I certainly dont want to keep people from earning medals, I just dont want to see them all bogarted like usual. Give people who arent master tuners a chance at 1-20 IDE, and leave the higher ones for the vets to compete over.

Beast
01-08-2009, 09:03 PM
The same exact crew hasn't won top crew twice in a row in a long time. Just cuz the name stays the same doesn't mean its the exact same people. Having to wait 2 sessions to be able to race again is going to make it hard for crew leaders to get good racers.

In one post you point out there are only two top crews and we need more comp then you suggest that we bar half of those people from competing...

dnb_Fueld
01-08-2009, 10:39 PM
more medals will force the newer, lower input members to want to try harder to get that top 3 crew, meaning ther will be more competion.

more competition at lower levels means more people coming up through the ranks. i also think ther should be more rewards,

like top 3 crews should get bonus nw to start up with, obviously first most 2nd next then 3rd last, it wont benefit only one group ethier as top crews are very rarely the same round in and round out even tho they are similar.

Even a few extra credits would be a good reward for top 3 crew and top ten nw

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-08-2009, 11:00 PM
Okay, just an idea.. If you make people not be able to compete for top crew every round.. Who's gonna play? O_o

MC_Alumni
01-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Okay, just an idea.. If you make people not be able to compete for top crew every round.. Who's gonna play? O_o

I dont think their idea was to make people not be able to compete for top crew. I think they were thinking something more along the lines of people who may not be members or maybe just not spenders being able to compete for something that may not be top crew but something close...

LuDe
01-09-2009, 01:37 AM
ok i see in the poll that more people want to have more top crew medals...i dont think this is good here are some reasons as to why...lets see if this makes sense to u people who voted yes...

1) u guys think this will promote more competition, but it will do the opposite...all this is doing is giving vets more chances to get more top crew medals and more top crew leaders...the reason is simple...a lot of people that have won top crews have backed down for other people to win...placing more top crews will jus give other people to run, take 2 or 3 and not care...because they will get a top crew...which means the same thing is going to happen as of now...honestly this isnt goin to create more competition nor will it allow more people to claim medals...the same 18-30 people are going to win the top 3 spots every season...i have no doubt about that...

2) this will actually decrease the amount of people online...knowing that they dont have to actually win and only have to get top 3...people will try less and also spend less because they dont need to pass...so there is less incentive to try hard and spend...

there are more reasons, but i jus cant think of any and im bout to get off...lol...so ya...but these are 2 major reasons y i think we shouldnt...

rom3o™
01-09-2009, 04:37 AM
toooo manyy icawnssss already

i log in and all i see is icawns, i remember once it was like an honor to haf icawnssssssss

rom3o™
01-09-2009, 04:40 AM
ok i see in the poll that more people want to have more top crew medals...i dont think this is good here are some reasons as to why...lets see if this makes sense to u people who voted yes...

1) u guys think this will promote more competition, but it will do the opposite...all this is doing is giving vets more chances to get more top crew medals and more top crew leaders...the reason is simple...a lot of people that have won top crews have backed down for other people to win...placing more top crews will jus give other people to run, take 2 or 3 and not care...because they will get a top crew...which means the same thing is going to happen as of now...honestly this isnt goin to create more competition nor will it allow more people to claim medals...the same 18-30 people are going to win the top 3 spots every season...i have no doubt about that...

2) this will actually decrease the amount of people online...knowing that they dont have to actually win and only have to get top 3...people will try less and also spend less because they dont need to pass...so there is less incentive to try hard and spend...

there are more reasons, but i jus cant think of any and im bout to get off...lol...so ya...but these are 2 major reasons y i think we shouldnt...

i read this after i wrote mine.

if i had seen this first id have just said

^word.

mecca_boy
01-09-2009, 05:52 AM
i say yes this will boost the game bring more competion as it is not very hard to get top 3 so there cuold be 20 dif crew going for top 3 one round then the normal two going for top crew

if this idea does not happen then let me ask you this why is there 3 different classes for ide but no crew?

id rather see ide only 1 class then top 3 crew medals maybe gold silver and bronze

also to make sure the "vets" do not just over run it you can only win one of those icons every couple months so that it will not be a repeat every round of the same crew

Victorious
01-09-2009, 05:59 AM
Again, Bryce pretty much summed up what I meant.

Also.

LOL @ He_Hate_Me giving me a history lesson on MC.... or America. That's a good one as well.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 08:02 AM
I see what Lude is saying, at least I think I do

Basically, no matter what medals you add to the game, greedy people will go for them just to take them.

Let me just add, Back in the day it was an honor to just have the two medals that I did have, but thats because it was an honor to work yourself up to that level.

The top 3 NW spots are dearly fought over, so why wouldnt top 3 crew spots? Also, like previously stated there are 3 IDE's that get hogged up as it is.

The point? The game you describe Lude seems a lot like what we already have. Nobody plays to have fun, they play to snatch up every medal they can have.

Im still not seeing how top 3 crews takes away from the competition, let alone people from spending and etc. If the game is literally ALL about spending and nothing else, then I must have been gravely mistaken. I thought it was about having fun.

Lol ive never bought anything more than a memby, and I think that its ridiculously easy to get top 25, and further more top 10. Back in 03, it was completely different.

The number 1 crew is still the ones who get the bonus. Top 3 get a medal, but number 1 gets a different medal along with the crew bonus for next round, and also their names colored in the next session. Number 2 and 3? they get a grimey medal.

So by all means, keep it the way it is. All im saying is, there may as well be 3 people playing and 2 crews competing.
Noone else has a reason to play other than helping out the top people. Lets all just quit


JK I'll never quit

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 08:10 AM
The reason the crew system fails these days is because no one is playing anymore. There are only enough good players to fill one or two crews. That, to me, is boring.

I dont even bother for a top crew, I just sit in mine by myself. And honestly, I probably have a better chance at top ten crew that way. Anyways, adding new medals gives people something to fight over.

If its something that good players are going to abuse like normal, and just take every round then yes its a bad idea. Why cant people just let lower level players have something? LOL, is going for IDE 1-20 and having your medals stripped worth it?

If people had actual respect they would have no problem giving the little guys a chance. The problem is, people are too medal hungry and proud of themselves and want to destroy everyone else in every aspect that they can. BORING

If I started the game and competed a session or two and found I could win ANYTHING whether it be IDE or a number 3 crew, I would keep playing. On the other hand, if I played and saw the same people taking the same things every round like it is, Id probably up and leave.

Who wants to play a game of 50 people, where 25 control it, EVERY SINGLE ROUND.

Keep it how it is, just dont expect many new members showing up and putting in conscience effort for ANYTHING. Half the active accounts are multiples as it is.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 08:20 AM
LOL, and look at IDE. Youve got one poor guy just barely behind the guy in ID and E.

Problem? The guy in first has won multiple medals and knows exactly what hes doing. Will also most likely get medals stripped. Also was in top crew last round.

The guy who can quite beat him? Top 25 twice. Now who is more deserving of 1-20?

Intead of letting people compete, win, and then taking away the medals lets just stop them from winning in the first place and give someone else a try

Beast
01-09-2009, 11:54 AM
I think IDE should be changed so it is one specific car from those ranges that is different every session. (Its only the same old 9 cars everytime already, they just dont change.) This way people wouldn't know the perfect times or have the parts list already. I should just be a featured car in each of the 9 catigories per month/session.

With that being siad....

In the current model every still one has a chance for IDE every time. You should not be able to earn 5 or 6 medals your first session on. You have already stated that top 25 and top 10 are easy to get so why give away more medals to the third best crew? People should want to be in a top 5 crew so maybe they can convince a leader to pick them up for top crew or learn how playing for a crew is different than playing stictly for NW.

MC_Alumni
01-09-2009, 12:01 PM
With that being siad....

In the current model every still one has a chance for IDE every time. You should not be able to earn 5 or 6 medals your first session on. You have already stated that top 25 and top 10 are easy to get so why give away more medals to the third best crew? People should want to be in a top 5 crew so maybe they can convince a leader to pick them up for top crew or learn how playing for a crew is different than playing stictly for NW.


I dont think it is any fun whatsoever to just play for nw anymore. I personally think they need to scale down the money making.

If people were in the mid hundred millions they would still have more than enough cash to do everything they needed but you wouldnt work 1000 creds and make 5 billion dollars and not even change position

If the max level was in the mid 20's i believe the playing field wouldn't be so stretched out. As it is now its like playing football with touchdowns worth 77 points compared to 7.

Beast
01-09-2009, 12:04 PM
Ok.

I dont see how that relates to the convo.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 12:30 PM
It relates perfect. As someone who was in a top crew the round before, then kept low to take IDE noone expects you to understand. This isnt about giving EVERYONE medals. Its about giving there some competition so that one round somebody doesnt win 1st and top crew, then the next take 1-20 IDE. THAT MAKES NO SENSE (not saying that this is your case)

Its not just about adding medals so the small guys have medals too. Its about making a game thats actually worth playing for EVERYONE instead of 15 people. You might think its fun winning against 20 people every single round, but to me its fucking boring.

Yea top 25 and 10 are easy as of now, BECAUSE NO ONE PLAYS. lol, ive said this a million times, how hard is it to win a game playing by yourself.

Why should one person that was top 10 the round before be ALLOWED to take 1-20 IDE. Why is that person even going for 1-20 IDE? Lol, because its an easy medal for them.

The problem is that a lot of the good people playing dont want anything evened out.

Alumni is right, this game is a blowout every single round and its boring. LOL, WC crushed the competition with no one coming close a few rounds. But doesnt that kinda seem like wasted effort. They could have easily put forth a third of the effort and still won.

LOL my point is who wants to brag about top crew if no one else is going for it. I realize this isnt the case every round, but more times than not it is.
There is simply no point to make a crew.

Pile all of the best athletes of this day in age onto one massive ass kicking team. Then watch them pummel everyone else into the ground. Sure, its fun winning. But when your playing yourselves who cares? When there is no competition, who the fuck cares?!

I wanna see 5 or more crews ACTUALLY competing for top crew. Taking away the crew bonus for the leader evened the odds a little bit, but there is still no point in running a crew unless you have top players, which are all already taken.

I dunno, maybe people would like it if there were 10 active players. That way, everyone could hog all the medals they like and brag to the other 9 about how good they are. The point is, the game is completely one-sided and for half the people who play its pointless.

Thats just my two cents

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 12:34 PM
I think IDE should be changed so it is one specific car from those ranges that is different every session. (Its only the same old 9 cars everytime already, they just dont change.) This way people wouldn't know the perfect times or have the parts list already. I should just be a featured car in each of the 9 catigories per month/session.

With that being siad....

In the current model every still one has a chance for IDE every time. You should not be able to earn 5 or 6 medals your first session on. You have already stated that top 25 and top 10 are easy to get so why give away more medals to the third best crew? People should want to be in a top 5 crew so maybe they can convince a leader to pick them up for top crew or learn how playing for a crew is different than playing stictly for NW.

I am absolutely certain that NO ONE that is for adding top 3 crews, is for giving new members 5-6 medals their first session. Thats just ridiculous.

On the other hand im on my 4th or 5th session, and I already have 4 medals plus another I will get this round. That is pathetic. Back in the day you could never hop into top 25 as if it were nothing.


The game of NW is set up 1st 2nd and 3rd. What is the difference for adding a 2nd and 3rd crew medal?

The number 1 crew will still be fought hard over, because thats the one that gives bonuses, unlike 2nd and 3rd.

Its like giving the winner 1 million dollars, and giving the 2nd and 3rd finishers a jenky ribbon.

as for your IDE ideas, I think they are good. The problem is, there needs to be a Noob version so people that are awesome cant just take all 9 medals, which I guarantee is what will happen.

LOL, all about them medals

Beast
01-09-2009, 12:39 PM
Shoulda know as soon as MC Alumni posted you were close in his heels.:gayfight:

WC blew out the competition once out of its three wins...

I got 1-20 in a 6 day round, as you can see it is the only class where anyone outside of the top crew even posted a time. 1-20 was the only thing anyone had a chance for last time. Dont be stupid. Plus ive never won ANY IDE before, im the fuckin guy who you say needs a chance at it!

Maybe other people should get better so we dont have to have this welfare system. Maybe you should do something about it instead of being in a crew by your self, like getting some new guys together and running for top. Top crew as nothing to do with skill, and there are pleanty of people with no medals who are on alot.

Beast
01-09-2009, 12:46 PM
I am absolutely certain that NO ONE that is for adding top 3 crews, is for giving new members 5-6 medals their first session. Thats just ridiculous.



Seems like you are. top 25 and top 10 are easy according to you. You want a special IDE for people who are not as good. (Which doesn't make sence this isn't the special olympics. Maybe one for non members would be good.) You wann give em a top 3 crew medal.

You knock on people for talking about medals but all you do is say how you have gotten your top ten already and start multiple threads about more medals! You prove your own arguments wrong when you talk about how easy it is to win top ten and top 25. If its so easy the noobs can win em and they will stick around. they dont need any handouts.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 12:52 PM
lol im in a crew by myself and right now I could be 4th in top crews. That says something. The only people I recruit to my crew are people just starting out. You WILL NEVER see me asking top players to join my crew, so get a clue.

Let me explain. I could give TWO shits about what medals I have. LOL I dont care about top crew or number 1. I dont care about whos car is fastest. Im just playing to have fun not for braggin rights.

Now, you say that last round no one had a chance for anything but 1-20 IDE. Funny, last session I took it easy on the racing and was above 20.

Even funnier yet, is that all 9 IDEs were filled, so how was 1-20 the only thing people could go for?

Now, you were in a top crew the round before last session. Thats exactly what im talking about is top players taking smaller ranks. This isnt about me getting IDE for myself. Its about an EVEN playing field.

Last round WC won by a long shot. The round before, the crew I was in came close, and anyone can think what they want, WE WERE NEVER GOING FOR A TOP CREW. Lol, kiro just spends a lot, so i consider that a blowout too. The round before, it was close between TWO CREWS.

Now, Id like you to read back thru my posts and pay careful attention to what I said. I said, that it has ALWAYS between 1-2 crews, most times 1.

Look thru the past winners and tell me different

Beast
01-09-2009, 01:01 PM
lol im in a crew by myself and right now I could be 4th in top crews. That says something. The only people I recruit to my crew are people just starting out. You WILL NEVER see me asking top players to join my crew, so get a clue.

Let me explain. I could give TWO shits about what medals I have. LOL I dont care about top crew or number 1. I dont care about whos car is fastest. Im just playing to have fun not for braggin rights.

Now, you say that last round no one had a chance for anything but 1-20 IDE. Funny, last session I took it easy on the racing and was above 20.

Even funnier yet, is that all 9 IDEs were filled, so how was 1-20 the only thing people could go for?

Now, you were in a top crew the round before last session. Thats exactly what im talking about is top players taking smaller ranks. This isnt about me getting IDE for myself. Its about an EVEN playing field.

Last round WC won by a long shot. The round before, the crew I was in came close, and anyone can think what they want, WE WERE NEVER GOING FOR A TOP CREW. Lol, kiro just spends a lot, so i consider that a blowout too. The round before, it was close between TWO CREWS.

Now, Id like you to read back thru my posts and pay careful attention to what I said. I said, that it has ALWAYS between 1-2 crews, most times 1.

Look thru the past winners and tell me different

If you read my post carfully I sugested you ask newer players to join your crew. and yeah it says something that you could be in 4th it says we shouldn't give out medals for the crew that is once place ahead of one fuckin dude.

well being above 20 wont cut it for 21-30. you have to be 30 for that. And like I sadi before only people receiving 4x were able to get the higher ones.

Why because I am in a top crew should I be barred from winning medals I have never won before? And who did I fuck over by winning them? Most if not all the names on that board have been playing for as long as I have at least.

Its never going to be even some people are better at the game and some people are online for longer each day. Thats just the way it is.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 01:05 PM
Seems like you are. top 25 and top 10 are easy according to you. You want a special IDE for people who are not as good. (Which doesn't make sence this isn't the special olympics. Maybe one for non members would be good.) You wann give em a top 3 crew medal.

You knock on people for talking about medals but all you do is say how you have gotten your top ten already and start multiple threads about more medals! You prove your own arguments wrong when you talk about how easy it is to win top ten and top 25. If its so easy the noobs can win em and they will stick around. they dont need any handouts.


Lol, i was going to reply with something nasty, then i realized how simple this post was and figured you prolly wouldnt understand.

Multiple threads about medals? Please provide a link to my other post about medals. Knocking on people for talking about medals? Please provide a link to where I did this...?

What you are failing to realize is that I am not just beginning. The fact thats its easy to get top 25 and 10 is not a good thing. Its easy because no one is playing this game anymore, and because I know what im doing. I have literally done close to nothing this session and Im ranked 6th. WTF?!

The point is to give people who arent as good as everyone else or just starting out a chance and reason to play. You act like adding two little medals will ruin the game, but I have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why.

1-20 IDE is for beginners, and I'd be expecting to see yours taken away here shortly. I certainly dont think it was designed around the idea that top players would take them all every round.

As a matter of fact, I think it specifically states in the rules thats the exact opposite of what the 1-20 is.

So other than this not being the special olympics and new medals being "stupid" what good reasons are there to NOT give lesser players a reason to play.

I think there are a lot of players that want to know why BEAST personally doesnt want them having any incentives

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 01:14 PM
If you read my post carfully I sugested you ask newer players to join your crew. and yeah it says something that you could be in 4th it says we shouldn't give out medals for the crew that is once place ahead of one fuckin dude.

well being above 20 wont cut it for 21-30. you have to be 30 for that. And like I sadi before only people receiving 4x were able to get the higher ones.

Why because I am in a top crew should I be barred from winning medals I have never won before? And who did I fuck over by winning them? Most if not all the names on that board have been playing for as long as I have at least.

Its never going to be even some people are better at the game and some people are online for longer each day. Thats just the way it is.

As for inviting lesser players to my crew, That is exactly my intention. I wanted to get a good start before I started inviting people that dont know what to do yet.

Im not saying you should be barred from 1-20 just because your good. What im saying is that there should be aspects of the game that make lower players want to keep playing.

The reason my single person crew is ranked 4th is because no one is actively competing for a crew. Lol, like I said, we are winning in a game that no one is playing. There is no competition.

So lets keep it the same and let 20 people take all the medals every single round. See how long that lasts.

I think people forget that without those crappier players they would have no one to race, and therefor would suck themselves.

Say the top 25 players played a round all by themselves (which is what its coming to) what exactly would there be to do?
You couldnt race anyone because everyones smart enough to get out of their cars. And if your not racing anyone, you suck too.

Im just tryin to bring some spice to MC. I knew people would be against it, and 90 percent of the people who are against it already have a shitload of medals. go figure.

Im gonna go start a game of monopoly, by myself, and see how bad I can own all the other people playing (mostly stuffed animals)

Do you see how this seems familiar?

Beast
01-09-2009, 01:21 PM
This is how your arguments go every single time. You just say people are too stupid to understand you or they are not mature enough to get what you are saying. Just because they don’t agree with you.

You have insinuated over and over again about how all people want is medals.

It was a 6 day session when I won IDE. I was out of the top crew so there was nothing else I could have gotten so I went for it, for the first time. It says in the rules the icons for 1-20 are temporary anyway I didn't expect to keep them. Let them be stripped.

I admit add these medals are not going to ruin the game, but they are not the fucking savior either.

Let these people who want to know why I’m holding them down and oppressing them so greatly come and post there and I’ll be glad to answer them.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 01:25 PM
you stupid immature idiot

who did I ever say was too stupid to understand me, or not mature enough to understand

tell me retard

Beast
01-09-2009, 01:25 PM
thats great that you are trying to improve the game, it’s just hard to sift though all your bad sarcasm to actually talk about the ideas you present here. I came into the thread offering discussion and a suggestion but now here we are two pages later with you being yourself belittling others and being arrogant about your ideas.

Beast
01-09-2009, 01:28 PM
you stupid immature idiot

who did I ever say was too stupid to understand me, or not mature enough to understand

tell me retard


Well me just now...

And agian here ......
"Lol, i was going to reply with something nasty, then i realized how simple this post was and figured you prolly wouldnt understand."

And agian here.....
"It relates perfect. As someone who was in a top crew the round before, then kept low to take IDE noone expects you to understand"

Obviously I dont have time to go quote all your post in other threads...

Big_Bang
01-09-2009, 01:50 PM
All I know is one day I'm going for level 1-20 Import. I look retarded with only domestic and european.

HeartBeatStoper
01-09-2009, 04:10 PM
All I know is one day I'm going for level 1-20 Import. I look retarded with only domestic and european.

my badd lol....i need the 2 you got and u need mine lol

Big_Bang
01-09-2009, 04:25 PM
my badd lol....i need the 2 you got and u need mine lol

Haha. You should've just let me taken Import too =*(.

He_Hate_Me
01-09-2009, 08:45 PM
Im actually happy to see some people who didnt swipe all three IDEs at once.

How about limiting the how many IDEs you can enter per session. 1 per session would seem fair, and that way anyone could still compete for them....?

Does that sound fair enough?

LuDe
01-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Im actually happy to see some people who didnt swipe all three IDEs at once.

How about limiting the how many IDEs you can enter per session. 1 per session would seem fair, and that way anyone could still compete for them....?

Does that sound fair enough?

u can only enter 1 at a time...lets say ur lvl 20 u tune ur cars and post ur times...as soon as u lvl to 21, ur name is removed from the 1-20 IDE...that way 1 person cant win all 3 IDE's in 1 season...otherwise all the top people would do it every season..

rom3o™
01-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Again, Bryce pretty much summed up what I meant.

Also.

LOL @ He_Hate_Me giving me a history lesson on MC.... or America. That's a good one as well.

who is that any way

and whos the beast

and why to they write so much and someone fill me in on what they are fighting about. im interested.

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-09-2009, 11:03 PM
who is that any way

and whos the beast

and why to they write so much and someone fill me in on what they are fighting about. im interested.

idk who they are.. but i was gonna go back and read their posts.. but fuk.. it's all essays.. FUK THAT..

you two stop arguing, idc wat it's about. kay?

LuDe
01-10-2009, 02:28 AM
the beast is his ign...and victorious is his ign...lol...things have changed rome...hahah

PANDAhumpnMONKEY
01-10-2009, 09:46 AM
Atleast they stopped ._.'

Victorious
01-10-2009, 12:18 PM
who is that any way

and whos the beast

and why to they write so much and someone fill me in on what they are fighting about. im interested.

Are you asking who I am, or who Hate me is? lol.

I was under the impression we'd talked before. I can't answer the rest of your questions though.

He_Hate_Me
01-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Lol believe it or not, I dont set out looking to start arguments. My in game name is TheCheater, and the thread was about making a more even playing field for MC.

The first idea proposed is a top 3 crew medal. I suggested to add a silver and bronze crew medal for 2nd and 3rd crews. 1st crew still has its specific medals, same bonuses for the next round, and Red/White the next round. 2nd and 3rd crews just get the medals.

The second idea proposed was a way to stop vets from taking all IDEs every round. I suggested letting people enter only one (either I, D, or E) per session. This way, everyone can still compete regardless of their standing, and everyone still has a chance to walk away with at least one medal.

The arguing seems to have ceased, for now at least

LuDe
01-10-2009, 05:13 PM
Lol believe it or not, I dont set out looking to start arguments. My in game name is TheCheater, and the thread was about making a more even playing field for MC.

The first idea proposed is a top 3 crew medal. I suggested to add a silver and bronze crew medal for 2nd and 3rd crews. 1st crew still has its specific medals, same bonuses for the next round, and Red/White the next round. 2nd and 3rd crews just get the medals.

The second idea proposed was a way to stop vets from taking all IDEs every round. I suggested letting people enter only one (either I, D, or E) per session. This way, everyone can still compete regardless of their standing, and everyone still has a chance to walk away with at least one medal.

The arguing seems to have ceased, for now at least

ummm that sux really bad...only claimin 1 would suck super bad...

rom3o™
01-10-2009, 06:23 PM
Lol believe it or not, I dont set out looking to start arguments. My in game name is TheCheater, and the thread was about making a more even playing field for MC.

The first idea proposed is a top 3 crew medal. I suggested to add a silver and bronze crew medal for 2nd and 3rd crews. 1st crew still has its specific medals, same bonuses for the next round, and Red/White the next round. 2nd and 3rd crews just get the medals.

The second idea proposed was a way to stop vets from taking all IDEs every round. I suggested letting people enter only one (either I, D, or E) per session. This way, everyone can still compete regardless of their standing, and everyone still has a chance to walk away with at least one medal.

The arguing seems to have ceased, for now at least

thanks

rom3o™
01-10-2009, 06:24 PM
Are you asking who I am, or who Hate me is? lol.

I was under the impression we'd talked before. I can't answer the rest of your questions though.

lol Ludes bin a bit drunk lately

i was definatley NOT asking who you were vic.

Victorious
01-10-2009, 07:33 PM
lol Ludes bin a bit drunk lately

i was definatley NOT asking who you were vic.


;)


Good. Was going to have to slap you.

LuDe
01-10-2009, 09:57 PM
ya my bad...lol..it was dan askin..hahaha

rom3o™
01-10-2009, 10:24 PM
ya my bad...lol..it was dan askin..hahaha


why do you have double my post.

He_Hate_Me
01-11-2009, 01:37 AM
ummm that sux really bad...only claimin 1 would suck super bad...


I have to beg to differ. Funny youd say that though.

I dunno I think thats about the most fair thing we could come up with. Everything else just led to adding more WW3's which is good too, but I dont think anyone is looking to see a bunch of new medals, I know that I dont want a dozen WW3 medals.

Or we could keep it the same. I just think as it stands, there isnt much for the lower skilled players to claim, and I AM NOT talking about myself. Im just looking for ways to keep people playing once they start, because honestly I see some things that would turn me away as a beginner.

LuDe
01-11-2009, 05:30 PM
I have to beg to differ. Funny youd say that though.

I dunno I think thats about the most fair thing we could come up with. Everything else just led to adding more WW3's which is good too, but I dont think anyone is looking to see a bunch of new medals, I know that I dont want a dozen WW3 medals.

Or we could keep it the same. I just think as it stands, there isnt much for the lower skilled players to claim, and I AM NOT talking about myself. Im just looking for ways to keep people playing once they start, because honestly I see some things that would turn me away as a beginner.

IDE would be so shitty to get then...i wouldnt want to race 3 seasons in a row and spend all the money to lvl jus to get 1 flag...i mean when i won IDE when i first came back...i spent 50 to lvl to 57 and 100 to lvl to 58...thats 150 for 2 lvls...and u want me to spend that 3 seasons in a row...instead of me earning it....cmon...

TheJMan
01-11-2009, 05:40 PM
why do you have double my post.

Ludes been spamatics while you have been away my frnd.

lude = :postwhore: Captn

Big_Bang
01-11-2009, 05:57 PM
Ludes been spamatics while you have been away my frnd.

lude = :postwhore: Captn

Damn another thing to learn from Lude. Gotta become post whore.

LuDe
01-11-2009, 09:31 PM
Damn another thing to learn from Lude. Gotta become post whore.

hahhaa..ya almost got banned for it...lol.

He_Hate_Me
01-12-2009, 10:07 AM
IDE would be so shitty to get then...i wouldnt want to race 3 seasons in a row and spend all the money to lvl jus to get 1 flag...i mean when i won IDE when i first came back...i spent 50 to lvl to 57 and 100 to lvl to 58...thats 150 for 2 lvls...and u want me to spend that 3 seasons in a row...instead of me earning it....cmon...

I understand you paid and all, i just thought it was about more than who can pay to win ya know? Not to mention that the highest WW3 starts at lvl 31, so 57 and 58 may have secured your win, but i know people who easily get to 55+ without paying a dime

Here, is a final solution. What about you can only enter 1-20 once per session. That way you dont have to spend to get it the next session. I dont think there is anything wrong with having to try 3 sessions to get 3 medals.

Plus, if you can only get 1 1-20 per session, it leaves it open for everyone.


Or....we can go back to having peoples medals stripped everytime they get them. Then no one has the medals

LuDe
01-12-2009, 08:58 PM
Or....we can go back to having peoples medals stripped everytime they get them. Then no one has the medals

i quit mc if that happens...i didnt work that hard and spend all my money for notin to show for it...

He_Hate_Me
01-12-2009, 09:37 PM
lol, youd quit over a medal? Really?

It aint that serious. I highly doubt you spent any money to get a 1-20 IDE medal, and if you did im confused. When I said stripping medals I meant higher players that take lower IDEs.

Is it just me, or did anyone else think this was the way it was supposed to be set up. That way, the people who DONT spend have something to do other than get spam raced all day.

I have to say this game is lopsided and it seems as if no one notices, or cares haha. Im top ten right now at level 20! That doesnt make me proud or give me a feeling of accomplishment. It makes me sad that its so damn easy to win nowadays.

Lol, its really pretty damn lame, but no one seems to care. Why is everyone so against giving the smaller players something! LOL, is it really going to effect your gameplay, in any shape or form?

Big_Bang
01-12-2009, 09:44 PM
lol, youd quit over a medal? Really?

It aint that serious. I highly doubt you spent any money to get a 1-20 IDE medal, and if you did im confused. When I said stripping medals I meant higher players that take lower IDEs.

Lol, its really pretty damn lame, but no one seems to care. Why is everyone so against giving the smaller players something! LOL, is it really going to effect your gameplay, in any shape or form?


I think he thought you meant all his medals. Why must they be GIVEN something? Why can't they work at it like everyone else. If they don't understand come onto the forums and ask for help. A forum is a place to get help. If the "smaller" players cared enough then they would join the forums to learn. That's why there is a forum in the first place.

LuDe
01-12-2009, 09:48 PM
lol, youd quit over a medal? Really?

It aint that serious. I highly doubt you spent any money to get a 1-20 IDE medal, and if you did im confused. When I said stripping medals I meant higher players that take lower IDEs.

Is it just me, or did anyone else think this was the way it was supposed to be set up. That way, the people who DONT spend have something to do other than get spam raced all day.

I have to say this game is lopsided and it seems as if no one notices, or cares haha. Im top ten right now at level 20! That doesnt make me proud or give me a feeling of accomplishment. It makes me sad that its so damn easy to win nowadays.

Lol, its really pretty damn lame, but no one seems to care. Why is everyone so against giving the smaller players something! LOL, is it really going to effect your gameplay, in any shape or form?


yes u said medals..i would be pissed if all my medals were stripped...and u said like before..ray at one point did do that and set up a hall of fame but ended up giving all the medals back because that was a bad idea...back then though i only had like top 25's and top crew so i didnt care...but now i would be pissed...and i did not spend anything on 1-20 IDE...

also i talked to ray and he said that he is going to remove all the 1-20 IDE's since they are suppose to b temp anyway...so i dont care..thats wat i was expecting anyway...

He_Hate_Me
01-13-2009, 06:28 AM
I think he thought you meant all his medals. Why must they be GIVEN something? Why can't they work at it like everyone else. If they don't understand come onto the forums and ask for help. A forum is a place to get help. If the "smaller" players cared enough then they would join the forums to learn. That's why there is a forum in the first place.

I just feel that people dont give a shit and dont even put forth effort, because they play a game and probably get their asses completely kicked. I dont really care. Spam racing makes this game so boring its barely worth playing, especially if you are on the short end of that stick.

I just think MC is going downhill. Everybody sells their car, so good players are left raping people way beneath them, and it gets really old. Im one of these people, but not because I have a choice. Its just the only thing to do if your actually making an effort.


To me, Id rather see people banned from 1-20, or 1-20 completely removed. Call me crazy, but I thought the point of 1-20 was for people who werent ever going to be 55+. It just seems that all people care about in this game are some silly medals that can hardly be called bragging rights.


Its just pummel pummel pummel the little guy. No wonder nobody sticks around